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Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by snowfield »

udfalkso wrote: post #25
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What issues do you have with teams? It works well and there’s nothing I can think of that I want in it. It’s just a video and chat app.

Teams suffers from one giant problem. There is a totally odd, but understandable from tech debt perspective, segregation between “chats” and “teams” which makes it practically impossible to find everything. It’s a fatal flaw. Slack is beautifully simple and effective in comparison. Also, the reminder feature on slack is extremely useful to me personally and I miss it dearly in teams.

Yes, in a world of dynamic virtual teams and cross cooperation across teams. «Teams» is an ancient construct

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by vladvasiliu »

beAbU wrote: post #174
vladvasiliu wrote: post #34

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It's by and large the slowest, jankiest, laggiest software I use regularly. And I say that as someone who swears Adobe has added a bunch of sleeps in Lightroom. On basic chat: it will sometimes scroll up when I get a new message, while I'm actively participating in that chat, so I need to scroll back down to read the new messages. Occasionally it flickers, for bonus points. It will not mark the chat as read if I'm on…

If you are having perf issues in calls, see if you can buy the hevc codec from the Microsoft store. Windows does not come with it by default, and supposedly teams needs this to offload video processing to the gpu. I think it made a difference to me. But who knows.

I have that installed for watching Prime Video and stuff while away with only my work laptop. Watching Prime Video in its app or YouTube in the browser doesn't heat the laptop (fan stays quiet), but I've never done this on battery, so I don't know how those fare on that front.

Now, I don't have performance issues per se, by which I mean that I don't have video or voice skipping or whatever. The interface lags, but it does that all the time, even without a call happening. If I only looked at the PC during a call, I'd think everything was fine. But I notice the fan ramping up and the battery draining if I'm unplugged. And this happens even when there is absolutely no video whatsoever on the call. I'm not even sure that not having video on makes that much of a difference battery- and heat-wise. Switching the Windows power profile to battery saver doesn't seem to affect Teams in any noticeable way, nor does it help with battery drain.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by wiseowise »

halbgut wrote: post #176

I'd agree if OpenAI seemed any good at building apps. They're a frontier AI lab and not operating like a product company. A lot of great and interesting things come from that, but not refined products. Their MacOS app really sucks. For months now, it's been eating up 100% CPU with some zombie process occasionally, their helpful global shortcut layover often doesn't autofocus, and their UX has never felt like it gets…

It is still way ahead of its competition, at least when it comes to mobile app.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by haute_cuisine »

mbreese wrote: post #164
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #29

We use Slack at work, and everyone we work with uses Slack, and we all work together with Slack Connect. I suspect if we moved to a competitor that’s pretty much the main impact we’d see, and it wouldn’t be good unless everyone else work with moved too. I think that network effect is probably the only meaningful differentiation in that space.

You could also look at it as: in order for a Slack competitor to compete with Slack's network effects, the new program will need to offer an easy way to extend chat workspaces with external collaborators. It's not impossible, but it does make Slack's moat explicitly clear.

The problem here is that companies artificially limit integrations, so it's impossible to exchange messages between different providers like how email works.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by navane »

OJFord wrote: post #169
sgt wrote: post #168

It's funny how people complain about Slack pricing but I've been using it for our company (nearly 100 people) for nearly a decade without paying a dime. The only thing we're not getting is history (and you really shouldn't save valuable info on chat anyway, we have other data repositories for that such as Wiki and git). So for me, we're getting tremendous value out of Slack and not once have they bothered to ask us t…

If you get big enough for Slack to care about, your history will be impractically short.

History is three months now, regardless of data used.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by snowfield »

psanford wrote: post #24

> Developers routinely complain about Slack’s API costs and permissions What? What API costs is the op talking about?

Developers will always hate to ask the system owner for changes to permissions don’t think you can just fix that.

If the company has enough grc red tape, integrating with slack can become almost impossible I can imagine

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by wiseowise »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #39
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #20

I use Slack every day, and I love it. Integrations are simple and reliable, giving us useful information about critical things. Why it uses 400mb I have no idea.

But it's so unreasonably slow. It lacks basic features like syntax highlighting on ``` blocks. It's basically become a super expensive and painful to use while Discord continues to be a joy. And the 'start a thread' nazis are just too much to bear. Prediction: they will add subthreads within 3 years.

Use threads, bozo, stop polluting feeds.

Re: OpenAI should build Slack

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Post by wiseowise »

evbogue wrote: post #72

I'd like to speculate, with the recent success of AI agents on the command line with OpenClaw, that perhaps IRC could be the future of AI-enabled chat rooms?

> with the recent success of AI agents on the command line with OpenClaw

Clown emoji.

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