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Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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They're saying that because saying what they actually mean would paint flock in a negative light, which they likely want to avoid for various reasons.

So they'd rather lie in their press release.

Saying bad stuff about their former business partner could get them sued.

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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Frigate NVR + Amcrest cameras. 100% local, private, on-device AI object recognition and classification. Can use a Google Coral USB TPU to speed that up. Runs on hardware as modest as a Raspberry Pi.

Great. Now package that as a plug-and-play product so more than 1000 nerds will use it instead of participating in the largest dragnet in history ;)

Well, open Reolink and UniFi website and there it is.

(Yes, I know you did the post with "haha, this is too hard for average human", but it really isn't. Don't be a big corp shill.)

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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Unless you explicitly enable Advanced Protection mode for all your devices, Apple stores your key in their servers and will give it to whoever legitimate looking asks for it. Aka ICE etc will definitely be granted access.

Home data is always E2EE https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Can you point me to the source code i can run on the device? Otherwise it's just another pinky promise for a blackbox by a company that can change at any time even for individual user.

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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The Anthropic one? Although I'm sure they'll put ads into claude eventually

The Anthropic ads are heavily into the uncanny valley. The services they are demonstrating looks horrible - even before the ad. A soulless psychiatrist who'll give you generic cookie-cutter advice about deeply personal issues? Why would you want that!? Same with the personal trainer, the startup coach, and the professor. Any of them would be incredibly creepy in real life, with their fake smiling, uncanny repeated st…

Aside from the ads/no-ads, they're also trying to lampoon chatgpt (especially the "sycophantic" 4o style), since Claude is supposed to be a more "human" LLM (or at least Anthropic likes to think so given their focus on constitutional rlaif, "soul doc" and whatnot).

But it's not a good ad when the only people who will get the reference are those plugged into "ai twitter". But association by implication doesn't work, the only thing most people will end up associating is the creepy guy with "Claude"

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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You seem to be taking the company's words at face value and assuming good faith. I would caution against doing that.

Amazing how often people do that. Corporations have very little incentive to be truthful and often have good reason to be dishonest. I notice it particularly wrt video games, gamers are always taking studio’s messaging as gospel and not corporate comms.

And with Elon Musk! If he says we're going to Mars, then we're going to Mars. If he says full self driving next year, we're getting full self driving next year. He said that every year for 10 years? So what?

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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I still don't understand how otherwise sensible people can have an Alexa or Google Home. Like what part of that seems like a good idea to them?

Ability to “Hey Google, play Spotify” in every room and shower is pretty great. That’s literally the only reason I’ve been using it for 5+ years. Oh, and it was practically free.

This is still unthinkable to me. Trading that much privacy for a little bit of convenience? How does it not make you uncomfortable to know that every conversation in your house is live streamed to someone else's computer?

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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The Anthropic one? Although I'm sure they'll put ads into claude eventually

Early audience response suggested the message struggled to land. According to an iSpot survey of 500 viewers, the ad’s likeability score placed it in the bottom 3% compared with Super Bowl ads over the past five years. Its top-two-box purchase intent scored 24% below Super Bowl norms and 19% below ads in its category that aired over the last 90 days. Viewers most commonly described their reaction as “WTF,” signaling…

The worst one I remember was "Gerbils" by outpost dots com , a Super Bowl ad with a gerbil cannon. But opinions differ on that one.

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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Doesn't matter, I've come to the conclusion I'll never buy into one these networks. There's a reason "security" cameras were always on "closed circuit", there's no need give these companies money.

I've had a couple Ring cams for years. I hate the network, hate having to pay for the cloud storage, I've just been too lazy to research self-hosted alternatives. Is there solution you'd recommend that's relatively polished and easy to use?

https://reolink.com

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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So they'd rather lie in their press release.

Saying bad stuff about their former business partner could get them sued.

1. Anyone can sue anyone

2. saying false things (not bad things per se) could be expensive

Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash

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I still don't understand how otherwise sensible people can have an Alexa or Google Home. Like what part of that seems like a good idea to them?

Convenience. Same with AI, the same people who fought against Google and Microsoft‘s data collecting now throw everything on data but the kitchen sink at their AI services.

This is such a weird thing to wrap my head around. I don't even use Bluetooth.
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