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That the camera is real doesn't imply the thing it's viewing is real.
Windows Hello cameras are all "depth" cameras so a flat photo won't pass muster.
Two flat images, one for each of the sensor's camera
Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
> where the platform doesn’t see your ID ID checks aren't very worthwhile if anyone can use any ID with no consequences. How long would it take for someone's 18 year old brother to realize they can charge everyone $10 to "verify" everyone's accounts with their ID, because it doesn't matter whose ID is used?
The system doesn’t have to be bulletproof. It just has to be better than the free for all it is today.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows Hello cameras are all "depth" cameras so a flat photo won't pass muster.
Two flat images, one for each of the sensor's camera
That’s not how they work. They emit structured light in the form of an array of infrared dots and they measure the time of flight to where the dots strike something.
Maybe new ones are different but that’s how they used to be. Little Kinect devices, really, for sensing faces instead of whole people.
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
> where the platform doesn’t see your ID ID checks aren't very worthwhile if anyone can use any ID with no consequences. How long would it take for someone's 18 year old brother to realize they can charge everyone $10 to "verify" everyone's accounts with their ID, because it doesn't matter whose ID is used?
The system doesn’t have to be bulletproof. It just has to be better than the free for all it is today.
Better?..
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#185Well, it’s a clever idea. Discord seems to have intentionally softened its age-verification steps so it can tell regulators, “we’re doing something to protect children,” while still leaving enough wiggle room that technically savvy users can work around it.
But in practice, this only holds if regulators are either inattentive or satisfied with checkbox compliance. If a government is competent and motivated, this approach won’t hold up—and it may even antagonize regulators by looking like bad-faith compliance.
I’ve also heard that some governments are already pushing for much stricter age-verification protocols, precisely because people can bypass weaker checks—for example, by using a webcam with partial face covering to confuse ID/face matching. I can’t name specific vendors, but some providers are responding by deploying stronger liveness checks that are significantly harder to game. And many services are moving age verification into mobile apps, where simple JavaScript-based tricks are less likely to work.
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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The governments making laws which mandate it feel otherwise.
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
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ID is much easier to forge, it's just a flat 2-d shape. None of the physical security features come through in images.
In functioning states, the ID contains a chip with a private key that can be used to sign a message, and ID verification would not be an image of the ID card, but rather holding your phone's NFC reader to the card and signing a message from the site. In Japan, there are already multiple apps which use something like this to verify user's age via the "my number card" + the smartphone's NFC reader. It's more or less im…
> In Japan, there are already multiple apps which use something like this to verify user's age via the "my number card" + the smartphone's NFC reader.
Does this also leak your identity to the app?
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#188Never trust user input wins again... on one hand, discord never sees your picture, on the other, you get this. :)
Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass
#189That code snippet for Discord is pretty brittle and will likely break with future updates.
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You have to show ID to buy beer?
If you aren't obviously adult then yeah. Where do you live so there are no laws on selling the alcohol to children?
There are laws, but in many countries they are not strictly enforced. In Japan, buying beer in the self checkout lane will just give you an “are you over 20?” prompt, no verification: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46227987