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Re: GitHub is down again

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Gitlab.com. CI is super nice and easily self hostable.

I heard that it's hard to maintain self-hosted Gitlab instances

Uhm no? We have been self-hosting Gitlab for 6 years now with monthly updates and almost zero issues, just apt update && apt upgrade.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Is it really that much better than alternatives to justify these constant outages?

Not any longer. It used to but the outages have become very common. I am thinking about moving all my personal stuff to Codeberg.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Github lost at least one 9, if not two, since last year's "existential" migration to Azure.

Is there any reason why Github needs 99.99% uptime? You can continue working with your local repo.

As an example, Go build could fail anywhere if a dependency module from Github is not available.

Re: GitHub is down again

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post #136

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Is there any reason why Github needs 99.99% uptime? You can continue working with your local repo.

Lots of teams embraced actions to run their CI/CD, and GitHub reviews as part of their merge process. And copilot. Basically their SOC2 (or whatever) says they have to use GitHub. I’m guessing they’re regretting it.

> Basically their SOC2 (or whatever) says they have to use GitHub

Our SOC2 doesn't specify GitHub by name, but it does require we maintain a record of each PR having been reviewed.

I guess in extremis we could email each other patch diffs, and CC the guy responsible for the audit process with the approval...

Re: GitHub is down again

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They're in the process of moving from "legacy" infra to Azure, so there's a ton of churn happening behind the scenes. That's probably why things keep exploding.

I don't know jack about shit here, but genuinely: why migrate a live production system piecewise? Wouldn't it be far more sane to start building a shadow copy on Azure and let that blow up in isolation while real users keep using the real service on """legacy""" systems that still work?

Why would you avoid a perfect opportunity to test a bunch of stuff on your customers?

Re: GitHub is down again

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You know what I think would reverse the trend? More vibe coding!

I know you are joking but I'm sure that there is at least one director or VP inside GitHub pushing a new salvation project that must use AI to solve all the problems, when actually the most likely reason is engineers are drawing in tech debt.

Upper management in Microsoft has been bragging about their high percentage of AI generated code lately - and in the meantime we've had several disastrous Windows 11 updates with the potential to brick your machine and a slew of outages at github. I'm sure it might be something else but it's clear part of their current technical approach is utterly broken.

Re: GitHub is down again

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post #74

What are good alternatives to GitHub for private repos + actions? I'm considering moving my company off of it because of reliablity issues.

At my last job I ran a GitLab instance on a tiny AWS server and ran workers on old desktop PCs in the corner of the office.

It's pretty nice if you don't mind it being some of the heaviest software you've ever seen.

I also tried gitea, but uninstalled it when I encountered nonsense restrictions with the rationale "that's how GitHub does it". It was okay, pretty lightweight, but locking out features purely because "that's what GitHub does" was just utterly unacceptable to me.

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