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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by lysace »

jasonjayr wrote: post #9
crazygringo wrote: post #7

I don't think they know what Ctrl+Alt+Delete means. They want to restart it? They want to go to the screen where you can switch users or sign out? Do they think it's just a fancier way of saying delete?

The folks at adafruit probably do know, but it does make sense if you expand the words: "Control, Alter, and Delete"

That's bullshit (IMO) and the post author (Phillip Torrone - I believe that's one of the owners of Adafruit) is obviously ignorant in this regard.

That said, what he's actually talking about in the post makes a lot of sense. That is the important part.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by BobaFloutist »

TehCorwiz wrote: post #95
derekdahmer wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actual shootings with 3D printed guns are relatively rare but it’s come up because Luigi Mangione killed the United Healthcare CEO with one.

And they're still doing anything except addressing the grievances that lead to that. EDIT: I think you mean "allegedly"

Right, because most people recognize that the US has become sufficiently polarized and radicalized that "If enough people are mad at you, a complete stranger might shoot you" is not a theory of change we want to encourage. Yes, even for causes we agree with, most adults in the room understand that "people being mad at you" is pretty independent of how righteous your cause is, and even how civil and thoughtful you are in pursuing it.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

zelda420 wrote: post #172
bitwize wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What a dystopia. If anything the situation in Minnesota should teach liberal Americans that they all need to arm themselves massively.

Yes, and remind me what happened to the liberal American that armed himself in Minnesota?

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Post by dylan604 »

tastyfreeze wrote: post #175
rangestransform wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s only theoretically non searchable, IIRC each submitted document has to be OCRed every time a search is ran on the documents, and this is enough of a legal fig leaf to qualify it as not a registry. A sizeable GPU farm would make this basically a moot point.

Oh I agree. It is very likely that the electronic checks are recorded and could be used as a non-official registry of gun owners. I removed my comment to that effect because it is speculation. But, electronic records are so easily recorded that I have little doubt that the electronic checks are in fact an illegal registry.

can the police not use a found weapon's serial number to determine its owner? how can they do that if there's no registry with that info?

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Post by [deleted] »

BanazirGalbasi wrote: post #105
dangus wrote: post #46

I really dislike this whole debate because I never wanted to be lumped in with 3D gun printing weirdos. When I first told my very non-technical somewhat new friend about my 3D printer, they looked really concerned and told me they weren’t comfortable with it because of how people make weapons with them. I’ve had to spend a lot of time building trust and showing that I’m not one of those weirdos. Ultimately I don’t th…

This seems like a problem with your friend moreso than with 3D printing in general. Most people I know who hear about 3D printing don't immediately think of making weapons. Toys and weird gadgets tend to come to mind first, or maybe an office accessory like my laptop stands. The fact that your friend immediately jumped to the conclusion that it's for making weapons says a lot about the way they think about the world.…

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Post by crazygringo »

viccis wrote: post #164
crazygringo wrote: post #7

I don't think they know what Ctrl+Alt+Delete means. They want to restart it? They want to go to the screen where you can switch users or sign out? Do they think it's just a fancier way of saying delete?

It has been used as an idiom to mean stopping or restarting something (the former in this case) for decades: https://wordspy.com/words/ctrl-alt-delete/ I think it's because most people associate Ctrl-Alt-Del with the process of terminating a process, so they use the key sequence itself to refer to the act of terminating something.

It means restart. It has never meant stop. Even the link you provide says:

> n. A metaphoric mechanism with which one can reset, restart, or rethink something.

That's what's confusing. The headline makes no sense because it's not about restarting.

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Post by tastyfreeze »

dylan604 wrote: post #184
tastyfreeze wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I agree. It is very likely that the electronic checks are recorded and could be used as a non-official registry of gun owners. I removed my comment to that effect because it is speculation. But, electronic records are so easily recorded that I have little doubt that the electronic checks are in fact an illegal registry.

can the police not use a found weapon's serial number to determine its owner? how can they do that if there's no registry with that info?

Seven states have required gun registries. It is not illegal for a state to have a registry. It is illegal for the federal government to have a gun registry with exceptions for NFA controlled arms.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12057

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Post by [deleted] »

dangus wrote: post #141
tastyfreeze wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A normal country? Like Iran that just slaughters or imprisons anybody that speaks or acts against the government. 2A is to stop that situation from ever happening. Is the government starts shooting we will shoot back. Before then we would prefer to resolve our grievances peacefully in court.

Most countries aren’t Iran. Are the French unable to protest without the 2nd amendment? Did the 2nd amendment save Mark Pretti from that exact situation happening to him?

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Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by iamnothere »

I will just continue to use my non-regulated printer and open source slicer. Fortunately I have a copy of the source.

If anyone needs help printing parts for a Voron just let me know. (Not a real offer for the public, but for friends absolutely.)

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by socalgal2 »

pjc50 wrote: post #33

This is insanely stupid stuff. Even the UK with our weird panic over Incredibly Specific Knives hasn't tried to do this kind of technical restriction to prevent people printing guns. Why not? Because nobody is printing guns! It's an infeasible solution to a non-problem! Someone should dig into who this is coming from and why. The answers are usually either (a) they got paid to do it by a company selling the tech, whi…

And so, Nick Bostrom's total surveillance required, starts

https://nickbostrom.com/papers/vulnerable.pdf

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