> Microsoft itself is rolling out Claude Code to internal teams Seems like Nadella is having his Baller moment
Even Copilot in Excel is actually "Claude Code for Excel" in disguise.
Two kinds of AI users are emerging
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#182> I helped one recently almost one-shot[3] converting a 30 sheet mind numbingly complicated Excel financial model to Python with Claude Code. I'm sure Claude Code will happily one-shot that conversion. It's also virtually guaranteed to have messed up vital parts of the original logic in the process.
It depends on how easily testable the Excel is. If Claude has the ability to run both the Excel and the Python with different inputs, and check the outputs, it's stunningly likely to be able to one-shot it.
Different inputs? With no understanding of the program, how is Claude going to determine what input set is sufficient.
Tell me if I am wrong, but surely Claude cannot even access execution coverage.
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#183Microsoft's failure around copilot in Excel gave my partner a very poor impression on AI's ability to help with financial tasks. It took a lot of convincing, but I finally got her to start using ChatGPT to help her write SQL and walk her through setting up some SaaS accounting software formulas. It worked so well now she's trying to find more applications at work. Claude code is too scary for her though. That will ne…
Install "Claude for Excel" addon directly in the Excel itself. Works well.
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#184Terrifying that people are creating financial models with AI when they don’t have the skills to verify the model does what they expect
That will get less terrifying when they move on to medical.
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#185>What I've come to realise is that the power of having a bash sandbox with a programming language and API access to systems, combined with an agentic harness, results in outrageously good results for non technical users. It can effectively replace nearly every standard productivity app out there - both classic Microsoft Office style ones - and also web apps. I very much doubt that tinkering with a non-repeatable, pro…
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#186I'd argue 2 types of users are * People using it as a tool, aware of its limitations and treating it basically as intern/boring task executor (whether its some code boilerplate, or pooping out/shortening some corporate email), or as tool to give themselves summary of topic they can then bite into deeper. * People outsourcing thinking and entire skillset to it - they usually have very little clue in the topic, are int…
I think you miss one third user. That's a developer generating entire systems and still have an understanding on the output. The dev person is in control of the architecture, code quality, functional quality and more. These persons are still rare. But I have seen them already. They are the new 10x developers.
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#187One the most reliable BS detectors I've found is when you have to try to convince other people of your edge . If you have found a model that accurately predicts the stock market, you don't write a blog post about how brilliant you are, you keep it quiet and hope no one finds out while you rake in profits. I still can't figure out quite what motivates these "AI evangelist" types (unlike crypto evangelists who clearly…
I guess I am kind of "AI evangelist" in my circles (team, ecosystem and etc). I personally see benefits in "AI" both for side-projects and main work. However according to my last measurements improvements is not dramatic, it is huge (about 30%), but not dramatic. I share my insights purely to have less on my shoulders (if my team members can do more it is less for me to do).
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#188> It can effectively replace nearly every standard productivity app out there
May we see the "agentic" replacement for Word, please?
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like you are part of the first group then, not the second. The fact that you are interested in learning and are using it as a tool disqualifies you from someone who has little clue and just wants to get something out (i.e. just spit out code)
As I reread the original post, I'm not actually not sure which group I fall into. I think there's a bunch of overlap depending on perspective/how you read it: > Group 1: intern/boring task executor Yup, that makes sense I'm in group 1. > Group 2: "outsourcing thinking and entire skillset to it - they usually have very little clue in the topic, are interested only in results" Also me (in this case), as I'm outsourcing…
I'd say you're still in the group 1. Your main goal is not the app but learning German. Therefore creating the app using AI is only a means to an end, a tool, and spending time coding it yourself is not important in this context.
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#190I remember a colleague jumping through hoops trying to get Python installed on an enterprise computer. We never did get to a yes and resorted to using PowerShell instead. The policy constraints at enterprises that this author describes are very real and very harmful. Perhaps the wildest thing to me is how you'll have senior leaders in a company talking about innovation, but their middle managers actively undermine ch…
> The policy constraints at enterprises that this author describes are very real and very harmful.
This is like saying prison bars are harmful. It depends which side you are on.