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Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by octoberfranklin »

llsf wrote: post #162
octoberfranklin wrote: post #144

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Yeah 25 years ago people said stuff like that about fingerprint scanners, and then they got hacked by literal gummy bears: https://www.theregister.com/2002/05/16/gummi_bears_defeat_fi... For 2020's-era palm scanners you don't have to replicate a 3D hand -- just like a video chat doesn't replicate my 3D face. You just have to emit photons (some of them infrared, yes) in the correct pattern. The hack won't look like a…

I agree and I get it. But at the same time, it is only used for payment and discounts at grocery store. Payment with a card is even less secure here in US. So, I do not think that Amazon Go was particularly unsecured since it was just for credit card payment. If someone manages to replicate my pulsing blood vessels from my hand and trick the scanner, that would be fine. I would dispute the purchase, and the store wou…

> Payment with a card is even less secure here in US.

This is not even remotely true. Credit card chips do real cryptography.

It's been a decade since I saw a card terminal without a chip reader, except for parking meters and soft drink vending machines.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by llsf »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #181
llsf wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree and I get it. But at the same time, it is only used for payment and discounts at grocery store. Payment with a card is even less secure here in US. So, I do not think that Amazon Go was particularly unsecured since it was just for credit card payment. If someone manages to replicate my pulsing blood vessels from my hand and trick the scanner, that would be fine. I would dispute the purchase, and the store wou…

> Payment with a card is even less secure here in US. This is not even remotely true. Credit card chips do real cryptography. It's been a decade since I saw a card terminal without a chip reader, except for parking meters and soft drink vending machines.

Sure, but that piece of plastic/metal can be stolen or misplaced. Anyone can use my credit card then.

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Post by adastra22 »

llsf wrote: post #135
adastra22 wrote: post #11

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I literally just signed up for this. Guess I have the killing touch. I don’t see the point though. It is a payment solution in search of a problem. It is a nice bonus first party payment solution at Whole Foods though.

Well, that is not just a payment solution. It can be linked to other things, and primarily to your Prime account, but it could be linked to other loyalty programs too. So when you wave your hand, you get your Prime discounts, you pay and you get your points. Just by waving your hand. No need to reach for a phone, an app, a card, scan a QR code, etc. The tech had some advantages. I used it every time at WF. I liked it…

Other PoS systems I used have no trouble linking my CC to my loyalty account.

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Post by vinay427 »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #179
vinay427 wrote: post #72

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In the US, you also wave your phone over the card reader, it goes "Pling!" and that's your stuff paid for. The GP comment is not about paying (although it can do that too [1]), but rather about providing their Amazon account details for Amazon Prime discounts and other benefits. A similar process is the case in the UK as well at Amazon Fresh stores, last I checked. [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.…

There aren't any Amazon Fresh stores in the UK, are there?

There were apparently 19 (I had only been to 4-5), but apparently they closed a month ago roughly in line with the closures in the US.

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

vinay427 wrote: post #184
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #179

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There aren't any Amazon Fresh stores in the UK, are there?

There were apparently 19 (I had only been to 4-5), but apparently they closed a month ago roughly in line with the closures in the US.

Looking online they appear to have all been in London, which isn't really "stores in the UK". It's barely within a day's drive of where I'm sitting.

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Post by arjie »

kay_o wrote: post #177
arjie wrote: post #109

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Oh, then my watch should suffice. Okay, I shall try it next time with a Prime discounted product!

Gpay/Apple Pay added card etc will not match hand-entered card on Amazon site's number since last 4 differs IIRC

Oh thank you for that. That explains it.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by awakeasleep »

llsf wrote: post #132
awakeasleep wrote: post #78

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I believe it’s even quicker to ask Siri to open the Whole Foods app. You don’t need to touch anything and Face ID will unlock the phone while you’re talking.

But you all realize that the OP did not even have to reach for his phone. He just waved his hand to get his Prime discounts, pay and get his rewards. I get that it is fairly easy to use the app on the phone (although my WF has terrible reception, which is frustrating enough when I come to pick up packages), but waving your hand would still be faster.

Not every response in the entire comment page is directed at the OP
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