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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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You should say why that is rather than just leaving a short, dismissive comment.

I’m not GP, but I can take a crack: A case against a limited liability corporation for infringing on a trademark is not like murdering someone and burning down their house because no one ends up dead and no houses are burned down, and it is an appealable judgement made by a court based in legal precedent.

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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #124

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The silly part is buying a $600 Mac mini when any $100 NUC or $50 raspberry pi or any cheap mini PC off of eBay will do the job exactly the same.

If you want iMessage you still need an always-on Mac, whether that's the main moltbot gateway, or the MacOS app running in 'node mode' to allow a moltbot gateway to use it to send/receive iMessages.

I noticed when I was reading Federico Viticci's post about it that he was using telegram, which has much better support for "markdown"-y rendering, which looks a lot nicer than iMessage. And then I thought to myself, why would iMessage actually matter? The only other use-case would be interacting with texts, but almost anyone can tell when someone is using an LLM to text - I feel like our texting styles are so personal, and what is there even to gain from using an LLM just with text messages? So is it even worth it to run on a Mac?

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #175

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No, asking a court for a large amount of damages from an LLC is not in any way similar to arson and murder.

You should say why that is rather than just leaving a short, dismissive comment.

1. murder and arson are crimes.

2. asking for a large amount of damages is how all lawsuits work. That doesn’t mean that amount will be awarded.

3. an LLC protects the owners personal assets from the judgement.

The likely result is that they are forced to repaint the truck on their own dime, and waste a bunch of their company’s money.

The worst case scenario is that Kelloggs takes the truck and the egg rolls that are in it.

Nobody is dying in a fire. Nobody is paying anyone 15m dollars. Nobody is losing a house.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #128
post #82

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- Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages. - Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nick…

I've been really curious about pi and have been following it but haven't seen a reason to switch yet outside anecdotes. What makes it a better daily driver out of the box compared to Claude or Codex? What did you end up needing to add to get your workflow to be "now capable to write its own extensions"? Just trying to see what the benefit would be if I hop into a new tool.

Why don’t you try it, it’s 2 minutes to setup (or tell Claude to do it), and it uses your CC Max sub if you want.

Some advantages:

- Faster because it does no extra Haiku inference for every prompt (Anthropic does this for safety it seems)

- Extensions & skills can be hot reloaded. Pi is aware of its own docs so you just tell it „build an extension that does this and that“. Things like sub agents or chains of sub agents are easily doable. You could probably make a Ralph workflow extension in a few minutes if you think that’s a good idea.

- Tree based history rewind (no code rewind but you could make an extension for that easily)

- Readable session format (jsonl) - you can actually DO things with your session files like analysis or submit it along with a PR. People have workflows around this already. Armin Ronacher liked asking pi about other user’s sessions to judge quality.

- No flicker because Mario knows his TUI stuff. He sometimes tells the CC engs on X how they could fix their flicker but they don’t seem to listen. The TUI is published separately as well (pi-tui) and I‘ve been implementing a tailing log reader based on it - works well.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Here's an actual idea. With this, I can realistically use my apple watch as a _standalone_ device to do pretty much everything I need. This means I can switch off my iphone, keep use my apple watch as a kind of remote to my laptop. I can chat with my friends (not possible right now with whatsapp!), do some shopping, write some code, even read books! This is just not possible now using an apple watch.

> I can chat with my friends (not possible right now with whatsapp!) btw, WhatsApp has an Apple Watch App! https://faq.whatsapp.com/864470801642897

doesn't work with iphone switched off

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #185
post #128

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I've been really curious about pi and have been following it but haven't seen a reason to switch yet outside anecdotes. What makes it a better daily driver out of the box compared to Claude or Codex? What did you end up needing to add to get your workflow to be "now capable to write its own extensions"? Just trying to see what the benefit would be if I hop into a new tool.

Why don’t you try it, it’s 2 minutes to setup (or tell Claude to do it), and it uses your CC Max sub if you want. Some advantages: - Faster because it does no extra Haiku inference for every prompt (Anthropic does this for safety it seems) - Extensions & skills can be hot reloaded. Pi is aware of its own docs so you just tell it „build an extension that does this and that“. Things like sub agents or chains of sub age…

Using your CC Max account for this seems like a good way to get your account banned, as it's against the ToS and Anthropic has started enforcing this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only legal way to use pi is to use an API, and that's enormously expensive.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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post #64

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You don't want to spend time and money to fight with a $350B company.

If that's your logic they can make you do anything they like. They can ask you for $100m "because I said so" and you'll comply to avoid spending $200m on lawyers.

Yeah. That'd exactly how it works. It's why having strong anti-SLAPP laws is critical.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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The way trademarks work is that if you don't actively defend them you weaken your rights. So Anthropic needs to defend their ownership of "Claude". I'm guessing they reached out to Peter Steinberger and asked nicely that he rename Clawdbot.

Of course Anthropic has the most obnoxious legal team of all the ai companies. The project got traction under the older name. A name change does hurt the project.

I don't think it's obnoxious to protect your trademark against a literal homophone operating in the same space as you. I'm confident a lot of people heard about "clawdbot" and assumed it was an anthropic product.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Oh dear, I bought claudeception.com on a whim - hope that doesn't upset anyone. I had some ideas on what to host on there but haven't got round to it yet. If anyone here has a good use for it feel free to pitch me...

You can still make a list of all the times Claude was confidently incorrect.

ha ha - that is actually quite a good idea ;)
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