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Post by koonsolo »

piva00 wrote: post #170
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not mind boggling if you don't manipulate quotes to fit for your narrative.

It is mind boggling how you keep trying to deflect away given your narrative. > Trump got a standing ovation at Davos and got a deal for Greenland And you don't know what is the deal, at all, so how can you base your entire argument in something you simply do not know? You don't know, you simply do not know.

I'm confident to go a step further and say there is no deal.

Greenland and Denmark weren't present to make a deal.

And to quote Trump: "Well, the deal is going to be put out pretty soon and we'll see. It's right now a little bit in progress, but pretty far along." (from https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W_UE7h3nTmQ)

The deal that is "now a little bit in progress", sounds to me like there is no deal.

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Post by saubeidl »

joe_mamba wrote: post #174
saubeidl wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/24/us/minneapoli... Feel free to look at the timeline here.

Can't see anything about 11 bullets in the back of the head.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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Post by rsynnott »

iceflinger wrote: post #139

Not sure why this is flagged? One of the largest social media platforms in the industry changed ownership, its user base is noticing an unexplained change in functionality? Surely that warrants a discussion among tech people?

Minihands's fans tend to flag anything unfavourable to Dear Leader.

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Post by saubeidl »

joe_mamba wrote: post #162
saubeidl wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pulled the trigger by accident eleven times??? Come on man, don't debase yourself like this.

Yes, police are trained to always fire multiple shots at threats.

Again, not police. Armed goons.

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Post by saubeidl »

joe_mamba wrote: post #156
saubeidl wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but also the ones on the way to authoritarianism, as was argued the Trump regime is. Thus, currently allowing some criticism is not enough to disprove the alleged march towards fascism. People with that viewpoint would argue that it's only allowed because power isn't consolidated enough yet.

>Yes, but also the ones on the way to authoritarianism, as was argued the Trump regime is. Democrats/leftists/ANTIFA don't hate authoritarianism, They hate that they're not the ones in charge of dealing the authoritarianism on their opposition, as shown by the masked mob gestapo they set up in Minnesota doing "papers please, you're either with us or against us" on civilians passing by to confirm they hate ICE. If Kam…

Antifa doesn't beat up innocent people, it does society a service by beating up fascists.

It's in the name, antifascists. They rose from the fascism of the 20th century and have a proud history of fighting the original Nazis.

God bless them for carrying on the good fight!

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Post by theshrike79 »

iinnPP wrote: post #18

This isn't very compelling. It's 2 anecdotes and a pretty damning final paragraph. Is there any more reliable data?

Anecdata is strong, I have multiple cases myself just from browsing this morning.

But I'm leaning towards incompetence. Some US generated stuff was most likely moved to Oracle shitboxes, causing encoding issues and unreliable streaming.

...or it's malice and they're scanning the data and intentionally throttling traffic for unwanted content.

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Post by dudefeliciano »

ozlikethewizard wrote: post #104
stanislavb wrote: post #62

Get used to it. Both TikTok and X(twitter) have been used and will be used to manipulate the public opinion in favour of Trump. I'm aware that I can't prove it; however, this explains how Trump won, and how he will win again - manipulating the zombies.

There are studies on it but the conclusions are pretty thin right now because data collection is hard, but I'd say youre right https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00104140241306955

hasn't this been pretty clear since Cambridge Analytica?

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Post by joe_mamba »

filoeleven wrote: post #168
joe_mamba wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Essex police haven't fired a single bullet in the last 10 years, and they are able to provide effective policing anyway. Only if you misreport crime, ignore grooming gangs and arrest people for Tweets as "effective policing" in the UK. >And I repeat, it's not an accident. If it was, they would have shot him once. Police are trained to always fire multiple shots, as learned from firefight reports, people are left in…

> people are left in capacity to fire back even when they have several rounds in them. And when there are 8 people on top of them, they're facedown on the ground, their hands are stuck in front of their face with no way to get at the waistband in which they had a legally concealed firearm, which one ICE officer removes while another waits for him to be out of the way before another executes them?

You're assuming officers have the time to rationalize all this thought process in the split second when another officer shouts "GUN!" and then one starts shooting leading to everyone shooting out of inertia.

People got shot from police mistakes like these all the time. It's an accident, a bad one, but not an execution, as everyone on the left calls it.

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Post by Schmerika »

saubeidl wrote: post #141
iceflinger wrote: post #139

Not sure why this is flagged? One of the largest social media platforms in the industry changed ownership, its user base is noticing an unexplained change in functionality? Surely that warrants a discussion among tech people?

There is a certain proto-fascist contingent here that sees it to their duty to stifle all discussion critical of the regime.

And there are people who own and run this website with extremely aligned interests.

Altman and Thiel have long had YC connections (obv); and for the last year or so Garry Tan and PG have been full-throatedly cheerleading Musk and DOGE on their Twitter pages.

Then there's the many connections between YC and the 'defense' industry; you know, the one making billions of dollars from wars that people speak out about on social media.

It's very easy to explain why posts get flagged here. It's a lot harder to digest why they don't get unflagged. Especially when all the posts about it are quickly removed, every single one.

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Post by Schmerika »

xtracto wrote: post #164
dudefeliciano wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

these topics are controversial for people who support the current US government, they don't want to see it on their tech-news website (even though it's called hacker news, the spirit of the hacker manifesto is not alive here). Funnily enough, these flagged topics seem to spark a lot of conversation, and the voices of the government supporters are not heard here...So they just flag and move on, not even trying to defe…

My problem with these type of posts in HN is that the discussion doesn't offer ANYTHING constructive. I comment a lot about these matters on Reddit, and I'm very much against all that's happening in the USA. But the reality is that the discourse i see here in these types of political posts is the same as on Reddit and the like. (Whether For or against ) It would be great if somehow the discussion added something diff…

> My problem with these type of posts in HN is that the discussion doesn't offer ANYTHING constructive.

They offer a chance for awareness, which is literally step one. Americans are some of the most propagandized people on Earth, and most don't even know it.

It's crucial that the tech community develops more awareness around censorship - no small share of the responsibility is with us.

Censoring stories about censorship, on a premier tech community and investment forum, just because the discussion gets 'visceral' is simply capitulation to any entity willing to try and make a discussion toxic. We need to do a lot better than that.

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