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Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by dominicrose »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #59

There must be so much video footage from smartphones during the demonstations that show gruesome killings and masacres, the iranian elites have to make sure this footage never sees the rest of the world. They have to ban the internet forever.

I don't want to believe that a government so incompetent, corrupt and cruel can continue to function. I don't trust that the rest of the world will help militarily although it's a strong possibility, but I do trust that they will continue to isolate the country. It's possible that the regime will implode simply because there is no honor among thieves.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by noduerme »

avadodin wrote: post #158
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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It's not even in the same ballpark. 0.03% of Iranians vs 3% of Gazans. I think we can all agree that Iran shouldn't be massacring its own nationals even if as the government claims they are foreign-influenced, but don't use this as a platform to push an agenda that harms even your own cause.

Let me get this straight: If 60,000 people are killed in a war in 3 years, it's a genocide, but if 30,000 protesters are killed in 2 days, it's not? Not that either one is a genocide, but you're saying the difference is what percentage of the population died? Therefore, 10 people in Luxembourg are equal to 200 people in China?

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by [deleted] »

tdeck wrote: post #31
dpe82 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes the regime cares more about the economic prosperity of their people than about staying in power. So far they seem to care more about power. North Korea provides a model for how terrible the situation can get for every day people in that sort of arrangement.

Some level of eonomic prosperity is necessary to keep the government's key supporters (e.g. the ruling class and the army) satisfied.

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Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by noduerme »

yfw wrote: post #172
noduerme wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My GF and I rarely discuss news or politics, but she's a frequent NPR listener who gets most of her (ahem) "news" from there and Reddit. So the other night something came up about Israel and she casually said "well, but everyone hates Israel now". In that context, I said what do they think about the masses of unarmed people shot in the streets of Tehran. So imagine my total surprise when she said she had no idea ther…

Might have to do with the funding cuts to public broadcasting?

I don't think so. We still have public broadcasting, and it's apparently not doing a wonderful job of giving an evenhanded, facts-first picture of world events. If anything, this has actually changed my mind and made me think that defunding it isn't a terrible idea.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by avadodin »

high_na_euv wrote: post #167
avadodin wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even in the same ballpark. 0.03% of Iranians vs 3% of Gazans. I think we can all agree that Iran shouldn't be massacring its own nationals even if as the government claims they are foreign-influenced, but don't use this as a platform to push an agenda that harms even your own cause.

>It's not even in the same ballpark. >0.03% of Iranians vs 3% of Gazans. "One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic"

I am saying the opposite.

Sure, they all had moms and dads and to their families they were likely important and missed but there is a World of difference to the people left behind between some activist no one knows getting murdered by the state and their own families and acquaintances getting mowed down while they themselves are living precariously.

This moral absolutism is relativism in disguise.

edit: sorry, I shouldn't have replied to a political post however egregious. I will not engage further.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by heraldgeezer »

jobgh wrote: post #12

No shot. The economy is already in the gutter. The productivity hit of a total internet cutoff would be a death sentence

No that is american propaganda. Glorious islamist economy is great! Look at ICE shootings instead.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by noduerme »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #176
jraby3 wrote: post #102

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Because the left love the islamists. Because Iran helps Palestine and Hezbollah. So Dropsite, Hasanabi and all of Reddit will not talk. It is that easy.

How there is a marriage of convenience between western progressivism and ultra-conservative theocracy is still confusing and mysterious to me.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by m4rtink »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #16

Spacex satellites blockage was the surprise. How did they do it? I thought it would be the best dooms day kind of insurance. Turns out not.

AFAIK they used GPS spoofing which confuses the Starlink terminals - they need to know where they are to properly connect to the satellites above.

This can be overriden to use "Starlink positioning" where the terminal ignores GPS signals and dtermines its position based on Starlink satellite signals. I think this is what is used in Ukraine where GPS is mostly jammed/spoofed to hell even far from the front.

The GPS positioning is the default as it is likely more user friendly/has quicker lock in normal circumstances.

Another venue of attack could be the Starlink WiFi AP included in the terminals- you could track that down.

So in general:

* switch the terminal to Starlink positioning

* disable the Starkink terminal WiFi AP and conect by ethernet or connect an AP via ethernet with a new SSID and different MAC address

And it should be good to go.

Re: Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only

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Post by noduerme »

FilosofumRex wrote: post #34
sigmar wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A company using legal action to protect their IP rights is so different from a theocratic dictatorship shutting down the entire Internet to prevent their overthrow. Perhaps you don't follow the news about Iran but these comments are incredibly daft.

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>> Arabia, UAE or Israel's internet

You mean the internet?

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