High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39

Post by Rygian » Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 12:55 PM UTC

logicallee wrote: post #179

elnatro wrote: post #160

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You left out that the machinists warned about the bad state of the railway tracks and asked for reducing the train speed[1]. There is underfunding in all the railway network. [1]: https://www.eldebate.com/economia/20250809/maquinistas-piden...

>You left out that the machinists warned about the bad state of the railway tracks and asked for reducing the train speed Since two trains collided, wouldn't that have happened regardless of the state of the railway tracks?

Post by rr2841 » Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 1:02 PM UTC

elnatro wrote: post #160

rr2841 wrote: post #141

What we know so far: 1. The last 3 cars from the Iryo train (Frecciarossa 1000) derailed for unknown reasons. It's a straight line, so this is extremely rare. 2. The Renfe train (Alvia) didn't have time to break and hit the derailed trains from Iryo, the two first cars derail as a consequence of the impact. 3. The Iryo train(Frecciarossa 1000), that caused the accident, was manufactured in 2022 and it passed a techni…

You left out that the machinists warned about the bad state of the railway tracks and asked for reducing the train speed[1]. There is underfunding in all the railway network. [1]: https://www.eldebate.com/economia/20250809/maquinistas-piden...

Post by jurip » Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 1:03 PM UTC

holowoodman wrote: post #121

xlbuttplug2 wrote: post #11

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Huh. I'd never thought of this. If that is actually meaningfully beneficial, I wonder if they'd design self driving cars with the seats facing backwards, given there's no longer a necessity to look at the road. (edit: I guess it's more of no-brainer on a train/bus where you don't have a seat belt)

Sitting backwards is beneficial if looking at accidents. But sitting backwards is very very uncomfortable if there is any kind of uneven acceleration, bumps, swaying, rolling, curvy tracks or whatever. Humans need to look forward at the horizon to get their visual stimuli aligned with their motion/balance sense in the inner ear. If that alignment isn't there, you will get seasick. Backwards makes this even worse. Bab…

Post by ReptileMan » Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 1:17 PM UTC

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oersted wrote: post #151

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I have observed that it is a recurring pattern. I am most aware of the behind the scenes in public education, but I believe it is across the board. Massive efforts are done to implement reforms to conform to EU standards, believing that that’s how the “superior” EU members do it (Germany, NL, Nordics…). But then I go there and I see that their system has nothing to do with the standards and they are not doing much to…

> Massive efforts are done to implement reforms to conform to EU standards, believing that that’s how the “superior” EU members do it (Germany, NL, Nordics…). I can't speak for Germany or the Nordics, but here in the Netherlands the government is doing just about anything in their power to keep foreign competition from our rail network. The only lines serviced by foreign operators are the ones that would cost the nat…

Post by yurishimo » Mon, Jan 19, 2026, 1:42 PM UTC

ReptileMan wrote: post #188

jeroenhd wrote: post #172

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> Massive efforts are done to implement reforms to conform to EU standards, believing that that’s how the “superior” EU members do it (Germany, NL, Nordics…). I can't speak for Germany or the Nordics, but here in the Netherlands the government is doing just about anything in their power to keep foreign competition from our rail network. The only lines serviced by foreign operators are the ones that would cost the nat…

>Our "high speed" rail is a joke Do you need high speed rail at all? There are not many points in the country that are more than 1 hour away with regular speed trains.