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Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Woulda been a nice article if it covered the real reason xlibre’s founder got fired from RH, Enrico’s had a long history of pissing people off and posting cringe on main: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccin...

The way Xorg is handling this is surreal. Now, they're trying to rewind Xorg 2 years just to get rid of XLibre's main developer's contributions[0].

0. https://youtu.be/d7-FczaSkdo

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Please help me, Lunduke (who is a Jew) likes a project that is "nazi"? Or is it maybe that people who call everyone a "nazi" who they disagree the real one's? Stop degrading that word (to make common and without any weight) and use it for you crippled worldview.

These days, the label is being used to signal the labeled person is a target for violence[0]. Horrible. 0. https://world.hey.com/dhh/calling-someone-a-nazi-is-a-permis...

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Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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post #182

Woulda been a nice article if it covered the real reason xlibre’s founder got fired from RH, Enrico’s had a long history of pissing people off and posting cringe on main: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccin...

The way Xorg is handling this is surreal. Now, they're trying to rewind Xorg 2 years just to get rid of XLibre's main developer's contributions[0]. 0. https://youtu.be/d7-FczaSkdo

Because his contributions are bad... Not because anyone has an agenda.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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post #182

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The way Xorg is handling this is surreal. Now, they're trying to rewind Xorg 2 years just to get rid of XLibre's main developer's contributions[0]. 0. https://youtu.be/d7-FczaSkdo

Because his contributions are bad... Not because anyone has an agenda.

If that was true, then why did the reviewer approve and merge them?

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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When people feel underrepresented to the point of being bullied they turn to any voice which seems to reflect even a tiny fraction of their frustrations. There's a real mean spirit in open source lately and a lot of it seems to revolve around political views. There's become this idea that if you and I disagree on politics then it would be impossible for us to write quality software together. It's damaged a lot of goo…

When people believe "they are product", bully Open Source developers for not following their demands and got expected response than entities appear that validate their wrongs for views (money). Lunduke spreads misinformation. That's anti Open Source, anti community.

> Lunduke spreads misinformation

He doesn't. He just reports events as a journalist. He doesn't fight against open source.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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post #108

I used to run KDE and GNOME on a computer with 256 MB RAM back around the year 2000. Athlon 1000 Sempron and a Duron 800 (one of these machines started out with 128 MB RAM). KDE 1.x, 2.x, GNOME 1.x, 2.x. I don't remember the very minor versions. I tried a myriad of Linux distributions, and FreeBSD as well. I settled for Debian. Back then, we (me, friends, family, etc.) thought these DE's were very bloated. I remember…

I used to run Gnome on 8 MB in the late 90s

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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When people believe "they are product", bully Open Source developers for not following their demands and got expected response than entities appear that validate their wrongs for views (money). Lunduke spreads misinformation. That's anti Open Source, anti community.

> Lunduke spreads misinformation He doesn't. He just reports events as a journalist. He doesn't fight against open source.

Name how it's possible to improve security on X11 without breakig changes.

Lunduke made factually wrong claims for hype. His mob are keen to attack Open Source developers.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Exactly. The issue today is that even if you optimize your OS and DE to be very memory efficient, it matters very little as soon as you open a modern web browser. And without a modern web browser a big part of the online experience is broken.

Aren't you optimizing your OS/DE to be memory efficient in order to use that memory for other things (like more web browser tabs)?

Linux is already pretty decent on memory even with a DE like gnome/cinnamon running. I have an 15 year old laptop with Cinnamon / Arch and it uses 700-800MB once booted.

Frequently the issue isn't memory (I've maxed the memory out at 8GB).

Older systems have issues with composing the web pages itself. A lot of people blame JS, but a lot of the time JS isn't the issue e.g VSCode & Discord runs nicely on the laptop.

e.g. YouTube has a feature called ambient mode, this adds like a white gradient around the video element. On old intel iGPUs this absolutely wrecks video playback performance and you get about 15FPS video. Turning this off the video plays smoothly. The backdrop IIRC is a CSS gradient, the GPU/CPU doesn't have the grunt to render the backdrop gradient with the video on top at a smooth FPS.

So while you might have the memory for the extra tabs, browsing can be a sluggish experience because the GPU/CPU just can't execute the code on the page well.

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