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Influencers and OnlyFans models are dominating U.S. O-1 visa requests

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Re: Influencers and OnlyFans models are dominating U.S. O-1 visa requests

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hnlmorg wrote: post #129
NewJazz wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet is global, but having folks in our midst who make a living that way has more of an effect on our culture than if they are just on the internet.

Why? I actually worked in the adult industry earlier in my career so have a better insight than most. and I can tell you that these models are just normal people like you an I. They aren’t interested in corrupting your children nor throwing wild sex parties in public spaces.

Just because they don't have ill intent doesn't mean the fact that some of the most highly paid members of our society being sex workers sends a message about what kind of skills and assets are valuable, and which aren't as valuable.

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Post by usef- »

Jare wrote: post #160
aiauthoritydev wrote: post #127

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I am not a lawyer. But OF models using O1 visa is totally fine. It is the intended purpose. The visa itself is meant for researchers, scholars who have job offers, athletes, actors etc. it has no cap and clear criteria. OF models who make a lot of money should totally qualify for this. Also this visa in uncapped so giving visas to OF models does not take away anything from scientists and others. O visa's original int…

I thought the reason for this to be a visa is because their fields' activities were in-person (acting in movies/plays/shows, academic life & research, sports training & leagues, etc). A streamer / OF worker is not like that as far as I know (but e-sports is). So this is purely to bring people with money and/or influence, nothing exceptional except the number of 0's.

It increases the countries' soft power if people around the world watch content from there.

Eg. a self-reinforcing cycle that you get the best from the other immigrant categories arriving because they choose the country where everything "seems to be happening".

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Post by onraglanroad »

mattfrommars wrote: post #125
superfrank wrote: post #10

It's funny, early on it says > The O-1 category includes the O-1A, which is designated for individuals with extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business or athletics and the O-1B, reserved for those with “extraordinary ability or achievement”. Then later it says > The O-1B visa, once reserved for Hollywood titans and superstar musicians, has evolved over the years. I understand those two aren't necessar…

I’ve been thinking lately a lot of female pornographic actresses on sites such as Brazzers don’t have US origins. Does anyone know on which work visa do models come in then? It can’t be H1B…

But many are. Stormy Daniels, for example, is American.

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Post by hnlmorg »

NewJazz wrote: post #181
hnlmorg wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I actually worked in the adult industry earlier in my career so have a better insight than most. and I can tell you that these models are just normal people like you an I. They aren’t interested in corrupting your children nor throwing wild sex parties in public spaces.

Just because they don't have ill intent doesn't mean the fact that some of the most highly paid members of our society being sex workers sends a message about what kind of skills and assets are valuable, and which aren't as valuable.

Unfortunately that ship has already sailed and immigration wasn’t the reason.

It turns out that American citizens can work in the adult industry too and it’s not just immigrants who are capable of earning money from getting naked on camera. ;)

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Post by neilv »

Jare wrote: post #160
aiauthoritydev wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not a lawyer. But OF models using O1 visa is totally fine. It is the intended purpose. The visa itself is meant for researchers, scholars who have job offers, athletes, actors etc. it has no cap and clear criteria. OF models who make a lot of money should totally qualify for this. Also this visa in uncapped so giving visas to OF models does not take away anything from scientists and others. O visa's original int…

I thought the reason for this to be a visa is because their fields' activities were in-person (acting in movies/plays/shows, academic life & research, sports training & leagues, etc). A streamer / OF worker is not like that as far as I know (but e-sports is). So this is purely to bring people with money and/or influence, nothing exceptional except the number of 0's.

What I know from news articles is that some of them openly "escort", like some traditional porn stars did more quietly. The fame on the screen can be brand-building for the even more lucrative in-person work.

As one said in a quote, regarding AI threat and crumbling economies: "The oldest profession will be the last profession."

If some of them want to move to the US right now, from currently healthier countries, one reason may be that social inequality means there are many deep-pocketed customers able to pay 5 figures for a weekend experience.

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Post by SoftTalker »

joe_mamba wrote: post #170
pb7 wrote: post #163

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Why does someone doing OF need to be in the country? You can upload pictures from anywhere.

Because once you move to live in the US (or any other country) then you become tax liable there and every gov wants more net taxpayers.

Yeah this is the reason. People who earn a lot of money pay taxes and aren't a burden on any social services. More, please.

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Post by Animats »

boelboel wrote: post #177
ericmcer wrote: post #55

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Influencers as the future of culture is not great. Hollywood had a ton of issues but it at least had some... class? If you watch an interview with Mr. Beast or other famous influencers they are concerningly ignorant, have little self-awareness and a child-like approach to reality. It makes total sense given these are teenagers who were lauded with fame for entertaining other teenagers on social media. I watched the M…

“but it at least had some... class” Not if you’d have asked the WASPs at the time, they very much looedk down on Hollywood. Saw it as vulgar and beneath them for many of the same reasons people dislike MrBeast. The 'class' only came afterwards.

The movie industry was, for much of the 20th century, split between production in Hollywood and finance in New York. Probably the last gasp of that was Marvel, where, for a long time, the merch and comic people in New York made the final decisions.
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