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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by cultofmetatron »

jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

the other benefit is that subs can be a sort of extended trial. Ive been wanting to try out final cut pro but I don't want to do a full video project if i'm going to be evaluating it. better to have 1-3 months to really know before I plunk down 299 bucks.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by nxobject »

When you're not plowing money into putting AI everywhere, it's easier to be cheaper than Adobe I guess...

(For what it's worth, the iWorks apps – Pages/Keynote/Numbers are free and bundled with macOS.)

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by pantulis »

james-bcn wrote: post #172
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea I've already purchased some of these apps so I was not going to thrilled if they pulled an Adobe and made me pay for an overpriced subscription on top of it >:(

> overpriced Seriously? This is incredibly reasonable.

It's not outrageous, for sure, specially if you happen to have a use case for all the bundled apps. But things change if you consider that the one time payment for Logic Pro equals about 18 months of the subscription. In my case, I bought Logic Pro in 2013 for 180€. Obviously a subscription seems expensive no matter what the price is.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by systemtest »

ksec wrote: post #121
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

>Comes out January 28th I wonder why? Why not today but 28th of Jan? Part of me thinks M5 MacBook Air and M5 Pro MacBook Pro will also be released on January 28th.

Could be related to billing cycles

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by darrenf »

nozzlegear wrote: post #176
Towaway69 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Undercut the competition until there is no competition, then raise prices or have I missed something? Ah, yes - cross finance your loses by selling compute in your own data centres / hosting service because you can.

What data centers? Does Apple even have data centers? Can people purchase compute on Apple's data centers?

> What data centers? Does Apple even have data centers?

Apple absolutely has data centres. Where do you think Apple TV, Apple Music, iCloud, Maps, etc compute happens?

Here's a press release straight from the horse's mouth about one in Denmark, in late 2020: https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2020/09/apple-expands-rene...

> Can people purchase compute on Apple's data centers?

Not to my knowledge, but that's not saying much.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by jonpurdy »

WillAdams wrote: post #169

Is anyone finding Freeform useful? I tried it out when it was first announced and found it painfully limited --- did I miss something? Has it gotten better?

I find it useful as a massive canvas for keeping a bunch of stuff in context, visually. And accessible via Mac and iPhone. But it is sorely lacking a major feature: highlight text to add a hyperlink. I end up with full URLs instead of hyperlinked words and it's pretty messy.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by btown »

jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

As someone who's loved Logic Pro since the days before Apple bought Emagic, this is amazing that it will be accessible to a broader audience.

There are many discussions e.g. https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1433515-why-does... about the reasons for its popularity, but one stands out to me - its event data model.

There are far too many tools out there (from FL Studio on one end, to MuseScore on the other) that present piano-roll-based rapid prototyping and traditional western score notation as diametric opposites. From day 1, Logic challenged itself "what if we can use the same event-based data model to render both."

None of this complexity is hidden - you can edit the raw event stream directly. If you're a developer familiar with, say, React, it makes music creation quite intuitive - everything from visual to audio output is a function of a transparently formatted data store.

And while that has its challenges, and some of the UX innovations of e.g. MuseScore have been slower to arrive in Logic, because of this "dual life" it's unmatched as a pedogogical tool, and a professional creative tool as well.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by doctorpangloss »

542458 wrote: post #142
H1Supreme wrote: post #133

Seems like a pretty solid deal, if you need everything. I don't know who that person is though. The intersection between Final Cut Pro and Logic users is pretty small, I'd imagine.

TBF, you can say the same thing for adobe creative cloud - the intersection between After Effects and Indesign users is also effectively nil! But having one simple opex line item for "software I buy for the creative types" is appealing for a lot of orgs.

Yes, re: opex. The product is “renewals,” not software really.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by sofixa »

exitb wrote: post #88
Towaway69 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Undercut the competition until there is no competition, then raise prices or have I missed something? Ah, yes - cross finance your loses by selling compute in your own data centres / hosting service because you can.

Apple doesn't ever need to make much money on this software, when they make money on hardware needed to use it.

Apple hardware has "only" a 36% margin, while their software and services have a 75% margin. They definitely want to make more money on software with absurd margins.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by noodlesUK »

I think this is a huge mistake at least as far as the office software goes. One of the key advantages to Pages.app and friends is that they are pre-installed and free on MacOS. This will just drive people to M365 and Google Docs.
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