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iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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The lesson being learned is that Apple could’ve avoided all this trouble if they had used or produced standards for the connection between their components. The whole concept of a gatekeeper was created in response to Apple-likes being difficult and simply hostile to interop opportunities even though they’re defacto the phone company and there is no way around them. So if the solution is not optimal, that circles bac…

A company making an integrated experience would inevitably provide a better experience/performance than a company asked to build for 100s of devices with different spec. That Apple did not want to open it up is a separate discussion. My contention is this: expecting a third party provider to be able to provide the same experience as the first party is an impractical goal. Even pushing companies towards that means a l…

> We already have android on that level.

You're missing the point. Apple isn't in trouble beacuse of user's choice between iPhone and Android. They're in trouble because of 20-50 headphone makers who Apple prevents from truely competing Apple for 2 billion iPhone users.

It's the same with all of these issues Apple (and Google) are running into. It's not about the user's choice to buy iPhone or Android. It's about 100s of thousands of businesses ability to reach those billions of users without a gatekeeper.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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How is Apple a monopoly?

They own the only app store you can use on an iPhone.

Okay, using that definition, Walmart, Target, Dollar Tree, my local regional grocery store, Trader Joe's and Ralph's are monopolies as well. They own their shelves and store space, and are the sole arbiters responsible for deciding what is sold within them.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Your comment is absolutely spot on, no notes. Wish your attitude was more popular and prevalent around here. My guess is that before 2017 or so it used to be.

Apparently even Apple doesn't share your opinion. They haven't threatened to leave Europe, Japan or the United States in retaliation for App Store regulations.

That's fine, I have no issue with Apple not sharing my opinion. It's a perfectly understandable and respectable business decision.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Not sure why self proclaimed "hackers" seem to be in love with walled gardens and corporate control :)

That's the thing, you don't have to be! You are welcome to use another phone more to your liking.

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Hey, don't take it personally. Apple is a known innovator in the field of government bribery: https://www.theverge.com/news/737757/apple-president-donald-...

Not sure what this has to do with my comment but okay!

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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They own the only app store you can use on an iPhone.

Okay, using that definition, Walmart, Target, Dollar Tree, my local regional grocery store, Trader Joe's and Ralph's are monopolies as well. They own their shelves and store space, and are the sole arbiters responsible for deciding what is sold within them.

If you have purchased your own Walmart and corporate still decides what you sell within it, then yes, that is exactly the same.

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Because they're often acting as a bulwark against powerful MNCs.

Let me know when Apple dictates what kind of transactions it's acceptable for me to engage in and which ones aren't - a decision that Apple has absolutely no say in, but the EU and other governing bodies regularly engage in.

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Maybe because they are the only organisation able to act against the massive (foreign, if it is anything tech related for a European) corporate entities nowadays.

Re: iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA

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Okay, using that definition, Walmart, Target, Dollar Tree, my local regional grocery store, Trader Joe's and Ralph's are monopolies as well. They own their shelves and store space, and are the sole arbiters responsible for deciding what is sold within them.

If you have purchased your own Walmart and corporate still decides what you sell within it, then yes, that is exactly the same.

Okay, so it has to be something you purchase - we're slowly getting closer to the true opinion here.

Sony is a monopoly as well then? They decide what gets sold in the Playstation store. Same with Nintendo.

Ford and Tesla are monopolies, they solely decide what is software is sold or used in their car's infotainment center stores, despite the fact that I have purchased the car!

AWS is a monopoly, despite the fact that I purchase an EC2 instance from them for one year they will not let me run certain kinds of software on it (Parler, some crypto, etc.)

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