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The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

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post #84

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> all men being subject to the law was pretty explicit purpose of the founding of america. I mean, they had a whole revolution about it. I don't think it is a feasible claim. Revolutionaries, by definition it seems to me, believe some men and the enacting of their principles are above the law. A revolutionary is someone who illegally revolts against the current law. And formally recognising presidential immunity isn'…

I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect the law to distinguish between official acts taken in an honest attempt to benefit the nation, and those taken to corruptly and brazenly benefit oneself.

That'd be a massive break from tradition in the US. AFAIK the only formal mechanism they have to separate the official from the person behind the role is impeachment by Congress. Apart from that there isn't really a mechanism to handle brazen corruption.

And US presidents have a long history of corruptly and brazenly benefiting themselves. Sometimes you see those before-and-after charts showing how much money they make while in office in excess of the official salary. The typical modern US president makes at least 10 of million in office and it isn't from the salary. Nobody likes it, but there is an open question of what exactly can be done about it.

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#182
post #153

The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…

I can't really connect what you're saying here. I understand that you think drawing loli (I imagine) shouldn't be classified as pedophelia, but what does the law say?

Part of living in a society is compromise. I don't believe that certain stretches of road close to my home should have a 50kph speed limit, but when I get a ticket I also accept that I'm in the wrong.

If you're of the opinion that drawing children having sex (assuming again) shouldn't be illegal, you should be lobbying/advocating for that position. Changing the compromise. Otherwise you're, like me driving too fast, at the mercy of the justice system.

Laws don't require your personal conviction to matter. Sometimes we don't get to do something, even though we personally believe it to be perfectly acceptable.

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#183
post #9

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They are not the best because they no longer support port forwarding. Their IPs are low quality and get you flagged as suspicious.

Can recommend https://njal.la if you still need port forwarding.

Or proton

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#184

GDPR for thee, but not for me.

GDPR (flawed as it may be) is there to protect consumers. So are you saying the ruling class is exempting itself from that protection?

The political class has already exempted themselves from chatcontrol so yeah

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#185
post #153

The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…

I can't really connect what you're saying here. I understand that you think drawing loli (I imagine) shouldn't be classified as pedophelia, but what does the law say? Part of living in a society is compromise. I don't believe that certain stretches of road close to my home should have a 50kph speed limit, but when I get a ticket I also accept that I'm in the wrong. If you're of the opinion that drawing children havin…

The problem lies on the wide margin of interpretation those laws give the police.

50kph is a number.

"Sexualized drawings of children" is certainly open to discussion.

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#186
post #107

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When governments push out clearly nonsensical regulations, like you must go to the office even if you can work from home, but you cannot go hiking, yes people do tend to get mad.

I saw a couple unreasonable restrictions like that in some places. It's not what caused the vast majority of complaints.

Yes yes everyone except you is stupid.

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#187
post #177
post #110

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They're usually liberals, so right wing but they don't specifically hate homosexuals.

> They're usually liberals The irony. Aside from that I also thought EU is more left than right wing right now. Nothing what they try to push this term of office seems right wing to me.

No? Kaja Kallas and Ursula VDL are trying to push war with Russia…

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#188

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Wow. I cannot fathom anyone thinking this, but also I am doubtful the EU pays for propaganda on HN so it is what it is I guess. After von der Leyen's corruption and the fast pace into totalitarianism against the will of the population nonetheless. Just wow.

Are you really convinced that the EU, which is not even a nation and is usually laughed away for being incapable of making any firm decision whatsoever, is on a faster track towards totalitarianism than the US has been since its last election?

No, and I didn't claim that - but it is sliding at a fast pace too.

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#189
post #153

The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…

If those countries have laws against making and consuming pedophile pictures and drawings (or "artwork"), I feel it's perfectly fine for people making and consuming those to be raided, even if they disagree with the law (if people could opt out of all laws they don't agree with, I'mnot sure what would be the point of making laws).

What is not ok is to watch the activities of everyone who is not a pedophile in order to catch those, otherwise when does it stop? Should they have cameras in every room of your home just in case?

Re: The Going Dark initiative or ProtectEU is a Chat Control 3.0 attempt

#190
post #153

The problem with "child abuse" is that some countries classify drawing things as "child abuse," or "rape," or "animal abuse." (Something I don't agree with.) I mentioned in another thread a few weeks back that I got raided by the British police last February for "uploading/downloading "illegal" anime artwork on one of the (anime) artwork websites we're criminally investigating." (Yes, the British police are criminall…

I can't really connect what you're saying here. I understand that you think drawing loli (I imagine) shouldn't be classified as pedophelia, but what does the law say? Part of living in a society is compromise. I don't believe that certain stretches of road close to my home should have a 50kph speed limit, but when I get a ticket I also accept that I'm in the wrong. If you're of the opinion that drawing children havin…

Wasn't his comment exactly "advocating for that position"?
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