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Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by rightbyte »

fasbiner wrote: post #127
rightbyte wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems rather reductionist.

How so? In china, app stores are open to market competition as an eventual consequence of a maoist insurgency. It's fine if you're personally a coward or you just don't think it's worth it. But not only does it work, it is so far, the only thing that has ever been proven to work.

I am not a maoist.

I meant that this is reductionist:

> definitional difference between a government, a corporation and a mafia that stands up to any objective measure and isn't based entirely on social cues and special pleading

Thinking about it. Your post now is also reductionist. Maybe that is your thing?

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by black3r »

al_borland wrote: post #3

I’m really not a fan of this direction for Apple. One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads, which make the experience feel more premium. Increasing ads, or having them at all, really erodes the user experience. Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads. Adding them after hitting that milestone feels either greedy or desperate, maybe a little of both. I know…

There have been ads in App Store for a long time. The upcoming change is that they will also appear further down in search results, right now they only show on top...

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

al_borland wrote: post #107
bigyabai wrote: post #92

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Rhetorical question, though; does Apple execute better? Or do they just sell it better? Because there are many entirely-feasible things that Apple failed to execute well. Xserve, Airpower, Apple Car, all dead and buried in one way or another. Today, all their tentpole successes are difficult to distinguish from pervasive marketing influence. We can't logically use sales, customer satisfaction or user retention as met…

I think it’s a little of both. Sure, they have failures, not no one is perfect. I think the iPad is a good example. Bill Gates had a dream of the paperless office and tried to make the tablet PC happens by putting Windows XP on tablets with some pen support. I saw a few of them in my help desk days in college, but they never really caught on. They put a desktop OS on a tablet and it was annoying to use. They also tri…

Before that monster you described, there was Windows CE (Windows CE used a different kernel), specifically for mobile. It supported networking and peripherals.

And it was very successful for years.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by squigz »

audunw wrote: post #123
nottorp wrote: post #58

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> One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads Newsflash: the first slot in an app store search is an ad that is not marked as such. Your extra $100 are already wasted. Here's a nice ad I ran into recently: https://imgur.com/a/sq1HFHK I was trying to install microsoft authenticator and the first "result"... I don't want to know what that is. If they add more ads at the top I suppose I'll have t…

You say it's not marked as an ad, but in that image there's a clear blue "Ad" label. Are there cases where that label is not present?

It's marked as an ad the exact same way they do it on Android and the exact same way it's done on Google.

These responses are a bit surprising. I wonder how people would have responded if this were about Android.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by gardenhedge »

squigz wrote: post #185
audunw wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say it's not marked as an ad, but in that image there's a clear blue "Ad" label. Are there cases where that label is not present?

It's marked as an ad the exact same way they do it on Android and the exact same way it's done on Google. These responses are a bit surprising. I wonder how people would have responded if this were about Android.

I think the comments are in the context of the top level comment which says:

> One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads

> Increasing ads, or having them at all, really erodes the user experience

> Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by godelski »

hurfdurf wrote: post #150
type0 wrote: post #133

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> When literally typing on a phone is a daily frustrating experience you know you fucked up "You are holding it wrong", maybe it's intentional and Apple decided that you should use Siri more

It is intentional: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46232528

That's saying something a bit different, though yeah I agree.

And btw, I have "auto-correct" disabled and this stupid bug still happens. Which is to say, yes, I agree, Apple is user hostile.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by wrxd »

bambax wrote: post #177

> Search results ads help customers discover your app right when they’re searching for apps to download. One would think it's good search that helps users find what they want. But noooo! It's ads! Ads help users! One has to love this kind of orwellian language. And one has to wonder if it's ever written in good faith? Or is everyone lying as a matter of course, to people who know perfectly well they're being lied to.…

If I were an app developer I would feel this is extortion. Users that are searching for your app can find it as the top result, if you pay enough. Don't want to pay? We'll show them your competitor's app, no problem.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by dewey »

al_borland wrote: post #3

I’m really not a fan of this direction for Apple. One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads, which make the experience feel more premium. Increasing ads, or having them at all, really erodes the user experience. Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads. Adding them after hitting that milestone feels either greedy or desperate, maybe a little of both. I know…

They already plaster iOS with ads...just for their own services and it's disguised as a system feature.

It's especially obvious if you don't subscribe to paid iCloud and see ads for "Apple Arcade", "Increase iCloud Drive storage space", "Sign up for Apple Music", "Have you heard of Apple Fitness+" or "New show on Apple TV+"-push notifications everywhere. Something that in theory they discourage to use these for promotional messages, but that hasn't been the case for a long time.

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