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Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by ribosometronome »

websiteapi wrote: post #37
nervousvarun wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep seeing this sort of sentiment everywhere and I'm trying to understand it. The same thing happened after Charlie Kirk was killed and the arrest there hinged on a confession by the killer to his dad. A lot of commentary then that the police/FBI got lucky. Ditto Mangione. They got lucky he was found in a random McDonalds. What exactly is the expectation here? Is there some sort of wide-spread belief that the worl…

I disagree that his catching was inevitable. They only knew an identity yesterday. If the suspect wasn’t a coward it’s plausible they could’ve just driven away to literally any other part of the United States and then flew back to Portugal. I have no comment on the Kirk case. As for the expectation, other than if civil liberties are going to be violated in the name of safety I expect much faster results, and I’m sure…

Portugal extradites.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by Dylan16807 »

bofadeez wrote: post #179
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #174

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> Last sentence went a little insane I'm drawing a moral analogy to mass murder, so the whole thing is going to tend towards the unhinged. But I'll stand by it. There is something sad in ordinary people bending to banal evil. Monsters being monsters is just horrific.

Mass murder is about as far as you can get from banal. It's an extremely rare tragedy to experience. But we're talking about two things: one is a violent crime and one is a civil matter involving a squatter. The building owners do have a right to occupy their own building, right? Or are you proposing we deny them their ownership as some kind of reward to the hero? That would amount to advocating that two wrongs make…

He wasn't interfering with the building owners. You're making up a justification to screw this guy over. That's really sad.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

bofadeez wrote: post #179
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Last sentence went a little insane I'm drawing a moral analogy to mass murder, so the whole thing is going to tend towards the unhinged. But I'll stand by it. There is something sad in ordinary people bending to banal evil. Monsters being monsters is just horrific.

Mass murder is about as far as you can get from banal. It's an extremely rare tragedy to experience. But we're talking about two things: one is a violent crime and one is a civil matter involving a squatter. The building owners do have a right to occupy their own building, right? Or are you proposing we deny them their ownership as some kind of reward to the hero? That would amount to advocating that two wrongs make…

> Mass murder is about as far as you can get from banal

Not what was said.

> Why not give him cash or a job or something else?

Sure. Why not.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by noobermin »

I hate to bring this up, but the conspiracy theories around this are nuts and I'm honestly quite bothered and annoyed by it. While the death is an absolute tragedy, the idea that the CIA killed him because fusion is around the corner and I suppose Loreiro was to usher in the next age of limitless electricity is quite ridiculous.

I will say that there is a non-zero overlap of people pushing this insanity and the posters here, given what I've seen elsewhere on the internet, and I will kindly ask that you stop.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by noobermin »

pavon wrote: post #147
eBombzor wrote: post #132

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Is there really much of an anti-immigrant narrative here?

The Trump administration has suspended the green card lottery program, using this murder as an excuse.

They are taking advantage of a situation. You'd think a false flag would definitely have someone who could be construed to not be a white immigrant.

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Post by GaryBluto »

tsol wrote: post #131
asveikau wrote: post #130

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I don't know much about the suspect, but I do know that people have been saying for years that they go into deep debt to get degrees, even in things that are supposed to be respected or in demand, and then it turns out there is actually no job market or success path for that degree. I assume the implication is it had something to do with this kind of frustration. (Though the suspect went to school two decades ago and…

I haven't heard any clear motives yet. Some people are saying it's simply a case of someone who was a genius that ended up in a mediocre place in life, leading to to killing. Still that story is so common in America I don't see how it leads to killing innocent children at your alma mater? It makes no sense to me. But as with many of these situations the truth might not make sense-- sometimes it's simply irrational th…

The most obvious motive seems to be a vendetta against higher education.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by typs »

Tripping5292 wrote: post #180

What was the motive? The targets seemed unique. One the VP of the Republican student club and the other a prominent Jewish physicist.

It’s unlikely the students at Brown killed were targeted. He opened fire on a room of students at a review session, shooting 11 people. It seems very possible that this was an act of violence out of resentment towards Brown, where he dropped out a graduate program over 20 years ago. He would’ve had most of his classes and spent most of his time in the building where he carried out the shooting.

He appears to have attended the same undergraduate program in Portugal as the MIT professor.

Therefor it seems possible that these shootings were carried out of personal resentment, though only he knew for certain.

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by bofadeez »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #182
bofadeez wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mass murder is about as far as you can get from banal. It's an extremely rare tragedy to experience. But we're talking about two things: one is a violent crime and one is a civil matter involving a squatter. The building owners do have a right to occupy their own building, right? Or are you proposing we deny them their ownership as some kind of reward to the hero? That would amount to advocating that two wrongs make…

He wasn't interfering with the building owners. You're making up a justification to screw this guy over. That's really sad .

Oh if he wasn't interferring, then they must have allowed him to keep living there? Why is that sad, you want him to be kicked out?

(You forgot to use logic or explain a point of view and instead just made a random moral judgement and expressed the emotion it made you feel, so I had to make some assumptions about your intentions and depth of thought)

Re: Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

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Post by rectang »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #165
rectang wrote: post #98

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I assume he will also no longer be able to live in the engineering hall basement. Beyond personal moral satisfaction, coming forward only means sacrifice. But a number of people have lost their lives, which keeps the scale of the tipster's personal losses in perspective. A terrible event all around.

> number of people have lost their lives, which keeps the scale of the tipster's personal losses in perspective I disagree. The shooter’s victims fell to a random act of violence. (As in the victims were randomly selected. The shooter didn’t randomly occur.) It is tragic. But it was a crime committed by one man, now dead, who targeted the innocent. The tipster is more than innocent. He is a hero. His eviction is not…

> And his assailants aren’t a monster, whom we don’t expect to strive for goodness, but us.

I expect monstrous actions from all humankind, though. What sets “us” apart from deviants is the deftness of our self-justification.

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