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Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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In CA and AZ vanity plates are first come, first served. You cannot sell them either. You either keep them on a car, or you can keep on paying to keep it out of circulation forever. But once you give it up it goes back to the pool, and someone can get it. Also, my vanity plate is $0 more than a normal plate. Why wouldn't I?

I guess you're in AZ? In CA, the absurd yearly cost is enough to keep me from bothering with anything more than the basic olates.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-education-and-safety/ed...

No price difference for the yellow on black plate when you want personalized.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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ØØ7 Don't forget that the cost is not only the bureaucratic fee; you also have to buy a vintage Aston Martin or Lotus, to display the plate.

While clever, as a Scandinavian I regret to inform you that I would read that as: Uh Uh Seven, not (double) Oh Seven ;)

But the tourists visiting Europe will be impressed.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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>To be clear, the prisoners aren’t literally forced to do this work. It’s a job they can choose to apply for and do while in prison. Sorry, do you have a source for that? The requirement to work is a major point of contention, and a very quick check with this[1] directly contradicts your claim in the federal system: "Sentenced inmates are required to work if they are medically able. Institution work assignments inclu…

Those programs you’re referring to in your quote are work within the prison itself: > Institution work assignments include employment in areas like food service or the warehouse, or work as an inmate orderly, plumber, painter, or groundskeeper. Meaning some prisoners work in the kitchen preparing food for other inmates, others are on clean up duty, and so on. You could argue that nobody in prison should have to parti…

Apologies for the misinterpretation. I thought you were speaking of all prison jobs, though I don't think it makes much of a difference. From an ACLU report[1] on prison labor in the US which covers both labor for prison upkeep and labor for producing goods to be sold or providing services for companies or governments:

> They work as cooks, dishwashers, janitors, groundskeepers, barbers, painters, or plumbers; in laundries, kitchens, factories, and hospitals. They provide vital public services such as repairing roads, fighting wildfires, or clearing debris after hurricanes. They washed hospital laundry and worked in mortuary services at the height of the pandemic. They manufacture products like office furniture, mattresses, license plates, dentures, glasses, traffic signs, athletic equipment, and uniforms. They cultivate and harvest crops, work as welders and carpenters, and work in meat and poultry processing plants.

> From the moment they enter the prison gates, they lose the right to refuse to work. [...] More than 76 percent of incarcerated workers report that they are required to work or face additional punishment such as solitary confinement, denial of opportunities to reduce their sentence, and loss of family visitation, or the inability to pay for basic life necessities like bath soap. They have no right to choose what type of work they do and are subject to arbitrary, discriminatory, and punitive decisions by the prison administrators who select their work assignments.

[1] https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/publications/2022-06... (relevant quotes are found on page 5)

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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I borrowed my friend's Prius once and accidentally opened the door to the wrong one and got in for a second before slowly realizing things felt off.

Around 2009ish I parked our dark grey Prius next to another dark grey Prius while going to the Beverly Hills Farmers’ Market and when I came back to the car, there was a third dark grey Prius parked next to the two original dark grey Priuses.

They were reproducing!

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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https://xkcd.com/1105/

That plate wouldn’t be allowed in Illinois where there is a hard requirement that all digits follow any letters on the plate.¹ The thing that I find mystifying is that they charge more for a vanity plate that’s all letters than one that’s letters and digits. ⸻ 1. Although some specialty plates end up having suffixed letters, usually shown on the plate stacked.

Some states simply do not allow 0 and 1 on vanity plates, you have to use the letters.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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I swear I read some case a couple years back where a kid was facing serious prison time for automating requests to w publicly available government website. "Unauthorized access of a computer." I think the author may have just admitted to what the government considers a serious federal crime, as stupid as it is to consider it a crime.

Soon he may be making vanity license plates

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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> These people are imprisoned, and I'm assuming forced to do this work This is an incorrect assumption, at least in my state. It’s a job that they can apply for and opt in to do. The debate is about their hourly wage. There is a possibility of forced penal labor, as I understand it, but it’s mostly things like being forced to do cleaning duties, road cleanup, etc.

In many states it's, at the very least, coerced . Having a prison job often comes with deals of better behavior and a shorter sentence (!!!). When you're being told that just working for 2 dollars an hour might lower your sentence from 20 years to 15, do you really have a choice? For example, in Georgia, prisoners often work outside of the prison for well below minimum wage in order to earn "good time". This means th…

This is a mockery of the term "slavery". It is no more slavery to be coerced to work for a shorter sentence than it is slavery to be coerced to follow the law to avoid prison.

"Behave a certain way and you will be imprisoned for less/no amount of time" is not slavery unless the law is slavery. The full term imprisonment is just, and being able to shorten it is a privilege.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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That doesn't justify ignoring our established punishments. Good luck with a system that sets everyone free just in case .

Where in the world did I imply that?

> Where in the world did I imply that?

You didn't, but I'm taking your stance to its logical conclusion.

GP: > they shouldnt be paid at all. they're in prison for a reason. they have a debt to society.

Your response: > Often that reason is "too poor to afford proper representation" or "looked vaguely like the actual criminal" or "took a plea bargain because the justice system was threatening them with an immorally-long wait for a trial and a likely worse outcome".

Be that as it may, this is our system. Through a series of laws we have defined due process for our people, and people who end up in prison are a result of this due process. Like it or not this is the best we were able to do.

If we are going to say prisoners should be given more privileges because some prisoners do not deserve to be in there, then why are we holding them in a prison to begin with? Being confined to prison is a thousand times more punitive than not receiving pay for making a license plate.

A better reason for arguing that prisoners should be paid for their work is because it is more humane. That's a better argument than some people are in prison unjustly.

I'm actually in favor of prison reforms. Prisons' number one goal should be to reduce recidivism. I see that as the entire point of the prison system: reducing crime. If a person leaves prison and re-offends, we have failed to do our job.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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> These people are imprisoned, and I'm assuming forced to do this work This is an incorrect assumption, at least in my state. It’s a job that they can apply for and opt in to do. The debate is about their hourly wage. There is a possibility of forced penal labor, as I understand it, but it’s mostly things like being forced to do cleaning duties, road cleanup, etc.

Prisoners are charged rent. The hourly wages have no minimum wage and are usually cents on the dollar. Definitely not enough to pay their rent for their cell. It's slavery. The South fought hard to include the "except as punishment for crime" clause in the 13th amendment. The US has never fully abolished slavery.

'The South fought hard to include the "except as punishment for crime" clause in the 13th amendment.'

I don't think that's historically accurate. The 13th amendment was passed in the Senate on April 8, 1864 and HoR on January 31, 1865.

At the time, the senate and congressional seats from the 10 southern states were vacant.

So the only fighting the south was doing was in the civil war, which didn't end until May 26, 1865.

The text itself is identical to the text in the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, which prohibited slavery (but allowed for the return of fugitive slaves) in what would later be Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and part of Minnesota.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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yes but except as a punishment for crime whereof has been refined with further case law I believe. You can be forced to do small jobs, clean up. You can be assigned Road Crew and pickup trash. You can do small jobs that the system won't hire and pay for, they'll use you. So long as you aren't a risk of flight, to the officers, or to society if you have to interact with the public. Beats sitting in a cinderblock white…

Yes, you don't need to be convicted to be forced into labor under the 13th. Pretrial detainees can be forced to do "housekeeping chores" and not violate the constitution.

This shows that the government (all branches) has always ignored the Constitution. It clearly says in the 13th that it requires the person to be "duly convicted".
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