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After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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You don't think Iran's situation is also mostly its own doing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%2527%C3%A9... A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mossadegh nationalized and refused to concede to western oil demands.

Yeah that was bad but you're skipping another revolution and more than 70 years of history. There's always some previous war.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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You don't think Iran's situation is also mostly its own doing?

No, you see the instant a western power interferes with a region, all agency is immediately stripped from every single person there. It's really sad, they all become puppets or automatons reacting purely to external stimulus.

Worst part is the agency never returns. Anything that goes wrong for the next 500 years is due to that original western intereference. Tragic really.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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I grew up in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais, a region full of natural resources and, thankfully, aquifers and natural water reservoirs. However, centuries of extraction mismanagement and, more recently, over exploration of mineral resources puts these water resources into jeopardy. (Other problems include mining in open pits and with sludge dams that led to two of the worse environmental disasters in the world i…

I'm also from Minas Gerais. Mariana and Brumadinho were truly devastating... The sludge is still visible in the rivers to this day. What gets me is how unnecessary it was. Could have been prevented.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #167
post #162

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You don't think Iran's situation is also mostly its own doing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%2527%C3%A9... A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mossadegh nationalized and refused to concede to western oil demands.

This is sort of a bad and inaccurate summary of a much more complicated situation. Mossadegh was trying to dissolve parliament and was in conflict with the Shah before the British got involved. The Shah was already planning to try by constitutional means (which he had legal power to do) to remove Mossadegh. Would he have done it without British and US backing, is a debate for historians.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #162

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You don't think Iran's situation is also mostly its own doing?

The number of countries messing around in that region is long.... From the US, Russia and china to local powers like Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Iran themselves. Either you're a scholar studying the region, if not your comment feels naive at best

Ultimately comments like this deny the agency of people who actually make decisions in these countries.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%2527%C3%A9... A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mossadegh nationalized and refused to concede to western oil demands.

This is sort of a bad and inaccurate summary of a much more complicated situation. Mossadegh was trying to dissolve parliament and was in conflict with the Shah before the British got involved. The Shah was already planning to try by constitutional means (which he had legal power to do) to remove Mossadegh. Would he have done it without British and US backing, is a debate for historians.

I don’t think any serious post WWII historians would agree with you. There was a concentrated effort by the UK and US to displace Mossadegh, who was democratically elected by the way. At the very least it disproves your unspoken assertion that the Iranians are primarily to blame for their problems when it’s been proven that the most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet were actively destabilizing their society so that oil revenue would continue flowing into western pockets.

Re: After ruining a treasured water resource, Iran is drying up

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The American "regime" has a country that people are literally fighting in line to get into.

Not any more. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/08/icymi-negative-n...

Good for the regime and americans in general. I still want to get in. I haven't fought anyone yet though.
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