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Re: US Tech Force

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Post by redbluered »

ActorNightly wrote: post #92
redbluered wrote: post #46

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Employers would have to be pretty spiteful to look at it the way you purposed. I wouldn't want a spiteful employer. The flip side is that a lot of government jobs lead to pretty good private sector opportunities working with those same agencies. If you want to contact to DOE, knowing how it works in the inside and knowing people there definitely helps. A lot of military contractors are former military. Who better to…

Yes and no. I have hired people to work under me. Generally, if someone can pass the interview and do the job, I don't care that much about your views unless you are very outwardly with them. The only time I had to filter out a candidate was due to a quick check of his public social media where he was "enthusiastically" pro Palestine with questionable posts. That being said, having interviewed plenty of ex government…

> The only time I had to filter out a candidate was due to a quick check of his public social media where he was "enthusiastically" pro Palestine with questionable posts.

Sounds like a place I wouldn't want to work (and filtering for the reverse stance would be equally problematic).

Do you think things will work better if we have pro-Israel and pro-Palestine companies with the two groups never talking?

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #174
dabockster wrote: post #106

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I've had two such chats with Trump supporters, and one said in great detail that this statement is true. He acknowledged that Trump has done a number of ethically and legally problematic things, and that supporting Trump means enabling this, but feels that he has to accept that necessary evil in order to achieve his policy goals on various issues. (The other flatly denied that Trump has ever done anything wrong and refused to keep talking when I produced examples of the most pointlessly cruel stuff.)

Have you heard differently in your own casual chats on the topic?

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by kulahan »

testing22321 wrote: post #96
jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

> Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards Paid time off??? Health insurance??? Retirement plans???? OMG this is incredible! What an offer! /s

A gov-backed retirement plan actually is nice. You don’t have to worry about losing your Chrysler pension because they went out of business.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by afavour »

SirMaster wrote: post #142
afavour wrote: post #53

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> Employers would have to be pretty spiteful to look at it the way you purposed I disagree. If a persons resume contains description of blatantly harmful work how else can I interpret it but negatively? At best you’d have to chalk it up to “just following orders” but I don’t want blind obedience in a prospective employee either. The destruction caused by DOGE is evident to anyone with eyes, as is the agency’s complet…

You seem to be assuming that someone who remained working for DOGE would even want to work for a company who would pass them over for having worked for DOGE.

That would presume they are able to see into the hearts of hiring managers everywhere

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by jeffbee »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #178
jeffbee wrote: post #90

You can go ahead and add this to the list of job experiences that will earn you a "Definitely Not" rating from me in the hiring committee, along with doge, palantir, coinbase, etc.

It seems absolutely crazy to me not to hire someone because you don't like a company they worked for. I don't love seeing that you're far from the only person to mention it here. It's just shouting "I'm biased and I'm proud" from the top of your lungs.

A person who willingly worked for doge or whatever has a lot of explaining to do. All you know about them on paper is that they are either a clueless dupe, or a closet nazi. Either way why would you want them in your repo?

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by jimbokun »

kstrauser wrote: post #170
amarcheschi wrote: post #34

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Click on America by design initiative "What's the biggest brand in the world? If you said Trump, you're not wrong. But what's the foundation of that brand? One that's more globally recognized than practically anything else. ... This is President Trump going bigger than President Nixon" Jesus christ, man

I about spit my coffee when I saw that. Good grief. > We've been conditioned to accept that mediocre in government is normal. Yes, I do now accept that mediocre [sic] in government is normal for the next few years.

Mediocre is probably the ceiling.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by kulahan »

kstrauser wrote: post #170
amarcheschi wrote: post #34

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Click on America by design initiative "What's the biggest brand in the world? If you said Trump, you're not wrong. But what's the foundation of that brand? One that's more globally recognized than practically anything else. ... This is President Trump going bigger than President Nixon" Jesus christ, man

I about spit my coffee when I saw that. Good grief. > We've been conditioned to accept that mediocre in government is normal. Yes, I do now accept that mediocre [sic] in government is normal for the next few years.

Are you under the impression this is somehow different from the last few years?

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by mothballed »

ethbr1 wrote: post #173
mothballed wrote: post #169

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DC has the highest per capita income of anywhere in the US (vs other states/territories), so when you realize federal workers are producing the most value for America the economics are at least a little better. If you look at relative economic slackers like workers of NYC and the private industry where less value is per capita created, it's a bit rougher.

What does this have to do with the price of DC housing and federal employee salaries' ability to purchase it?

Lower salaries at the same home prices would make it even more difficult. This is what we see in NYC, for instance.

DC has some of the highest home prices but also the highest incomes.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by BurnTheBoss »

hntway2594 wrote: post #164

Funnily enough I had recently been thinking something like this would be a good idea. Like if the govt. created a department with the soul goal of developing open tech for the public good. I guess you could say they kind of already do this with research grants but something with more clear focus could be a good thing. It's too bad this was created by an absolute dumpster fire admin that will 100% use this for malicio…

Im pretty sure this was one of the goals of the USDS before it was gutted and turned into DOGE. Also 18F (RIP)

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by usefulcat »

ethbr1 wrote: post #175
dabockster wrote: post #106

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This feels like it needs a MAGA vs Republican distinction. There are plenty of Republicans who (privately) have issues with some things Trump is doing.

Talk is cheap; actions are what matters. Based on their actions (or lack thereof), the group you're describing must be a very small minority indeed.
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