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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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FFS. When I bought LG OLED TV, it was quite snappy. A year later, it asked to update webOS. OK. Now we are crawling through molasses... All TV software seems appears to be an absolute fucking scam.

Why are people still connecting their TVs to the internet? I thought this is already common wisdom for people in tech for decades to NEVER connect your TV to the internet, not even once.

Well, you get better UX with native remote. I can always make add an external dongle unless it's bricked

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…

Apple TV is the best device for using Plex with a TV fwiw.

That's true, but not if you want to use HDR which the Apple TV + Plex sadly still don't support. Infuse on Apple TV does.

Some threads:

- https://www.reddit.com/r/appletv/comments/1azy0s9/current_st...

- https://forums.plex.tv/t/does-the-plex-app-supports-hdr10/89...

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.

It boggles my mind why anyone would update anything in 2025. Most products are shipped with full feature set and then updates ensure enshittification. The security argument doesn't apply because classic hacks rarely happen, it's mostly social engineering.

Agreed, every update of a stable consumer product is a risk that it might just go completely sideways

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> My rule for modern TVs: > 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. A sensible rule, indeed. Next level of dystopia: cellular modems becoming so cheap that every TV, fridge and washing machine comes with one that connects it to the Internet whether you like it or not. And then when we Faraday cage those, the device refuses to function. Laws need to…

The EU actually mandated that cars have a modem ("eCall"), so they could self-report accidents. I think this has been under reported even in tech circles.

You also need to have a spare tire or an inflate kit, that doesn't mean you can throw it at somebody's head or spray them in the eyes. Said in another manner: having eCall doesn't mean that they are authorized to send telemetry back in non-emergency situations or use it to do any other thing unrelated to the main function. Now, if there is not a law that forbids that, car makers are going to exploit that loophole for sure, but that does not mean the EU is evil in this context.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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This is 100% the why.

Whenever I see this much vehement agreement about something on HN, it sets off serious groupthink alarm bells. Idk what the answer is, but it is not 100% this. It’s too simple and satisfying of an answer to be true.

Normally I would agree, but I've seen this happen too often. Common sense be damned, just make the number look good.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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My rule for modern TVs: 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. 2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features. 3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku. The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only…

Maybe this is what I need to do.

I disconnected our living room LG TV from the internet and got a Fire Stick 4K Max, but I hate it; 90% of the screen is advert, and you get a tiny sliver for the 5 apps it lets you see, and you have to go digging for the rest, not to mention the home-screen advertising isn't always appropriate for young children.

I hadn't considered Apple TV because I've never been an Apple user, but perhaps this is what I need.

Though I'm an Android user, all of the Android TV devices seem to be junk or ad-ridden junk.

Is Apple TV the way to go (asking other opinions).

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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My rule for modern TVs: 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. 2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features. 3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku. The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only…

I got one of those Google TV Streamer boxes, put a different launcher on it (Projectivy Launcher), and it's been great, no ads or anything.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Apple TV is the best device for using Plex with a TV fwiw.

That's true, but not if you want to use HDR which the Apple TV + Plex sadly still don't support. Infuse on Apple TV does. Some threads: - https://www.reddit.com/r/appletv/comments/1azy0s9/current_st... - https://forums.plex.tv/t/does-the-plex-app-supports-hdr10/89...

Infuse is a game-changer. I’ve been network streaming from my own media servers since the days of the original Xbox Media Center. Infuse is the best setup I’ve used. It a shame there’s nothing comparable in terms of polish on Linux or Android.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Surely if Copilot was so useful and great, it wouldn't be free and they wouldn't be trying to force it down unwilling people's throats at every opportunity. I'm beginning to think this AI stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be...

I've been a heavy user of the MS Copilot chat app on my Android phone, which I've been pretty happy with as a free basic AI chat option except for some annoying GUI bugs that they will apparently never get around to fixing. But I've yet to see a good use outside of the chat interface.

Reminds me of Amazon discovering most people don't use Alexa for much beyond setting cooking timers.
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