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Only if your mental model equates youtube to junk food.
And yet, would that be wrong?
Youtube is a grocery store. So yes, if you view everything coming out of it as junk you're ignorant and wrong.
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#182"Recommendations" should be optional. I can recall early days of "recommendation engines". Never thought it would lead to this
The "algorithmic feeds" in Facebook, YouTube are greed-based
No user ever asked for them. They could be optional. But they are mandatory. A significant amount of user control is transferred to the company. ByteDance took this even further, arguably it has 100% control. Now Facebook and YouTube, and others, all have some form of this, rolls, shorts, whatever
What's interesting is the companies, no matter what the harm alleged to stem from the "algorithmic feeds", will not back down on "recommending" content. No compromise
I think that's telling. Perhaps traffic would plummet, stock price would tank
No one should be surprised by the legislation this had spurned
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And yet, would that be wrong?
Youtube is a grocery store. So yes, if you view everything coming out of it as junk you're ignorant and wrong.
And yet, when going to a grocery store where everything is free, what content would adolescents be most likely to consume?
Your analogy was more apt than you could ever imagine.
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Youtube is a grocery store. So yes, if you view everything coming out of it as junk you're ignorant and wrong.
And yet, when going to a grocery store where everything is free, what content would adolescents be most likely to consume? Your analogy was more apt than you could ever imagine.
I can't speak for your adolescents, but my kids make generally good decisions. I don't relate to the kids are stupid automatons with no agency or valid opinion mindset that is so prevalent with HN contributors. If your kids would only ever pick junk food, maybe that is a reflection on you more than them?
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#186more likely his nanny manager enforces the rule
He probably also limits his kids exposure to public services
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#187We parents are in a constant war with screen use by our children. It causes a cognitive dependence that is translated to a chemical one (dopamine etc). I don't blame the mega corps and their CEOs, they are legal money makers not cultural leaders. We are winning and losing battles everyday and that depends on factors like child temperament and age, school, peers etc. I believe my children will thank me for that later.
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#188This thread is person after person saying “oh wow, person who sells terrible thing for humanity doesn’t let their kids have unlimited access to terrible thing! It’s so obvious. This isn’t news.” The news is that the CEO of youtube is saying that Youtube is something that should be limited and he thinks harm will come to his children if he does not. This may be obvious to people on this site but a lot of normal people…
To me it seems like basic parenting to limit access to tech. It wasn’t healthy for kids to just play video games every day for 5hrs straight after school in the 90s either. But that also doesn’t mean they should never have had a PlayStation or all gaming is bad.
The research on video games indicates that it tends to enhance certain skills like spatial awareness and reflex time. They're also pretty decent social / competitive outlets.
The research on social media indicates that it lowers attention span and increases anxiety, depression, and anger. And my personal opinion is it's the reason we're seeing crazy things that I can't fathom happening without it like the measles resurgence.
Neither should be used for 5 hours a day but the consequences don't seem comparable to me. The only place they do align is you should probably be exercising more instead.
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And yet, when going to a grocery store where everything is free, what content would adolescents be most likely to consume? Your analogy was more apt than you could ever imagine.
I can't speak for your adolescents, but my kids make generally good decisions. I don't relate to the kids are stupid automatons with no agency or valid opinion mindset that is so prevalent with HN contributors. If your kids would only ever pick junk food, maybe that is a reflection on you more than them?
I myself was recently an adolescent, and still know many adolescents myself. My take is coming from my anecdotal experience, and the behaviour I've observed from my peers. Perhaps your kids don't show that side of them in front of you? I know my peers and I certainly didn't go out of our way to advertise such activities to our parents when we were younger.
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Kids don’t stand a chance against decades of data/research and billions of dollars weaponized against human psychology to garner as much of your attention as possible at all times.
Kids should own a device with "adult" bit set to 0, so that they can only use government-approved applications and sites. Why government? Because parents are too lazy or dumb to configure anything and 90% will just let their children access whatever they want and the rest 10% will feel like losers who cannot watch the things all their classmates are allowed to watch.
Ehhh I’m more of a “hybrid model” guy myself. I do think the government should be more involved in regulating what these companies can do to us and how they can use our data, but I’m not really in to your vision of how involved they are in apps directly (imagine that kind of power with the Trump administration).
Meanwhile I do think parents should not be expected to literally handle every element of this because it’s just not possible to have eyes on every bit of media/entertainment/etc our kids can find. That being said it is our responsibility to educate our kids on some level, so we can’t just expect to pass the buck entirely to external systems. I do think it’s reasonable to expect some basic guardrails though.
Needs to be a little bit of effort and restriction across the board.