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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by weldedtogether »

erohead wrote: post #177
weldedtogether wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love the idea as a very easily distracted individual, but the battery is keeping me on the fence. I understand how charging circuitry makes this product a non-starter, but is there any hope of the battery being replaceable?

If you look at other rechargeable smart rings they're in the $250 to $300 range, plus a $10/month subscription. We didn't want to do that for a new product like this.

I like the price here, but my question was not about adding charging circuitry, but some way to open the ring and replace the battery once it's depleted.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by aristofun »

Goooshhh, just f.. give me a watch that a) last at least a month b) visible in a daylight Also accurate Hr activity and sleep tracking wouldn’t hurt.

That’s it.

Nobody gives a single bit about your fancy ai-blockhain-voodoo features. How blind are you to real demands of normal people?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by adammarples »

lopis wrote: post #96

Instead of a stand-alone piece of e-waste, how about this: a device with the same format (a ring and an button) but the only thing it does is trigger the pebble watch to start recording a message. This way the microphone isn't needed, just the radio (and much weaker radio at that), and the battery will last exponentially longer. Then just expose the charging terminals so that we can at least hack the device with cust…

Then just put the button on the watch? In fact, why isn't this just a button on the watch?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by kennyadam »

apparent wrote: post #172

> When your phone is in range, the recording is streamed to the Pebble app. It’s converted to text on-device, then processed by an on-device large language model (LLM) which selects an action to take (create note, add to reminders, etc). So does this mean that my lists have to be managed within the Pebble app? Or can the Pebble app interact with my Notes and Reminders apps? If I'm limited to the Pebble app's features…

Actions: [...] you can also ask it to do things like ’Send a Beeper message to my wife - running late’ or answer simple questions that could be answered by searching the web. You can configure button clicks to control your music [...] play/pause or skip tracks [...] where to save your notes and reminders (I have it set to add to Notion) [...] Add your own voice actions via MCP. Or route the audio recordings directly to your own app or server!

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by zem »

jbstack wrote: post #153
layer8 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. Two years isn’t too bad, but at $99 the price is still a bit high for that.

It's pretty bad when you consider that you have to limit it to just this use-case (3-6 second recordings 10-20 times a day), when it could have instead been useful for other things e.g. recording much longer thoughts or making notes while reading a book or watching a video. Even for just the narrow use-case, 2 years is still pretty poor. I generally expect my tech to last a lot longer than that.

this seems to be optimised for the use case where you just want to record something quickly; if you wanted a longer recording session the up front overhead of pulling out a dictaphone or something wouldn't be too bad, and you would have better ergonomics than holding a button pressed and your hand to your face.

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Post by aljaz823 »

apparent wrote: post #154
dotdi wrote: post #116

I was typing in my CC info when I went back to read about battery life. This is meant as positive feedback: I won't be ordering a non-rechargeable device with 12 hours of recording for $100. Imagine I fall asleep with it on my finger and accidentally press the button with my head. It's recording me snore for 3 hours, and 25% battery life gone.

Based on the description, this doesn't seem plausible. If the button is as clicky as it sounds, it would hurt your head/hand/both to do the thing you describe.

It doesn't matter if it's plausible or not. It's the fact that it's non-rechargeable device with 12 hours of recording...

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by zem »

miyoji wrote: post #126

I'm not sure what other people's hands are like, but mine are pretty big and I can just barely push my thumb against the part of my index finger where I would wear a ring, and doing so renders my thumb useless for any of the opposable things that I usually use my hand for. It's also extremely uncomfortable for my hand and thumb. I've managed to press buttons on my watch with my hands full, but it would literally be i…

I figured the button went on the side of your finger nearest the thumb, and you curled your hand into a loose fist to press it

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by wkat4242 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #105
jfindper wrote: post #69

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"Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording". Not sure how long my iphone can record for, but it's probably close to that. Afterwards I get to charge my phone instead of recycle it, though. Apple, don't hire this man. Edit for the downvoters: can my iphone not record that long or something? iphones can't recharge? Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings…

> "Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording". Is that based on anything, or is that just a guess? Anyway, 12 hours' worth of 30 second recordings is a total of 1440 recordings. I guess three a day for a year does seem a little low? > Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings? Enlighten me. What e-waste? You send it in for recycling; they might just repl…

That's not what recycling is. If you get it back it's recruitment.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by PunchyHamster »

Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

I mean on one side I can see using it for to-do lists, but on other, why would I want another device in addition to smartphone and smartwatch ? Especially that talking to your smartwatch looks slightly less crazy in public than to your finger

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by wkat4242 »

mikestew wrote: post #132
kwanbix wrote: post #107

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Or better yet. Use your cellphone wich most of us carry 90% of the time?

The cellphone that’s buried in my handbag? I think you missed the expressed use case (admittedly, a few paragraphs into TFA): ”Before, I would take my phone out of my pocket to jot these down, but I couldn’t always do that (eg, while bicycling). I also wanted to start using my phone less, especially in front of my kids. ”

I'm sure it won't be able to handle wind noise well (it doesn't look big enough to have multiple microphones) so you'd have to stop the bicycle to make a good recording. Might as well grab the phone then.
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