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The web runs on tolerance

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Re: The web runs on tolerance

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post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But then ask them whether people who bully minorities should be welcomed in polite society. I don't understand this PoV; bullies aren't welcome anywhere! It's almost a tautology. What is the point of making a special exemption for bullies of minorities? Your writing , OTOH, lumps people like me, who don't care to join this fight, in with actual bullies. We don't really care if bullies are bullies of minorities or b…

We appear to be in violent agreement with each other :-) I'm not sure if my writing was unclear, but I said "Anyone who preaches the ideology of hate has no business here." That's who my screed was against. Those who use their influence to promote hate. I was very specific in not saying "everyone needs to agree with me" or "if you're not with me you're against me". If you took that away from my writing, I can only ap…

> That's who my screed was against. Those who use their influence to promote hate.

Maybe that was your goal, but as you can see in this very thread, the first reply to me literally did lump me in with those bullies you speak off.

So it isn't just me who took that message from your writing, it was people who presumably agree with you too.

Saying, now, "well, it was not an us vs them argument", is pointless: if everyone is interpreting your message incorrectly, it's not everyone that is wrong.

Re: The web runs on tolerance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I couldn't care less You do care , otherwise you would not even have thought about it twice, let alone comment. The most striking argument against this line of reasoning is that there is no possibility for you not to act politically. By ignoring the issue of systemic discrimination (“don’t care don’t personally discriminate”) you actively contribute to and participate in the systemic discrimination. It’s a choice,…

So systemic discrimination is an individual problem? Silence is violence?

It is a collective issue, and as such also the responsibility of each individual indeed. And silence can be one of the psychologically most damaging forms of violence, leading even to physiological damage when persistent.

https://vipinbhasin.com/2024/10/21/the-impact-of-silent-trea...

https://www.royalblueheating.co.uk/08-164491-silent-treatmen...

etc.

Re: The web runs on tolerance

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post #70

Postel's Law was one of those Great Mistakes of computing, alongside null pointers, fork(2), and well, C in general. Conform to the spec or be in error. If you allow for sloppiness, you create a problem because different implementations will tolerate different kinds of sloppiness, yielding incompatibilities and horrors like "quirks mode". XHTML tried to rein this in but by then the cat was out of the bag, and every T…

Maybe developers should be held to stricter standards than their users. I can demand developers to close tags they are expected to close. But users should be allowed to provide their document numbers as "12345" "123 45" or "12-34-5" if all these notations are used in their country.

Then specify the accepted forms and specify a canonicalization algorithm to translate the acceptable forms into some base representation. Don't just leave it up to implementations.
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