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It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by StableAlkyne »

alberth wrote: post #177

Silly question: how are people negatively impacted by the trademark of "JavaScript"? Because in practice, isn't this a bit like "Kleenex" - where everyone knows you mean "tissue" (EMCAScript).

It's less the fact that someone owns JS's trademark, and more that it's specifically Oracle (they got it when they bought Sun).

Oracle is an incredibly litigious company. Their awful reputation in this respect means that the JS ecosystem can never be sure they won't swoop in and attempt to demand rent someday. This is made worse by the army of lawyers they employ; even if they're completely in the wrong, whatever project they go after probably won't be able to afford a defense.

Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by 1bpp »

dkersten wrote: post #25
falcor84 wrote: post #22

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But everyone already calls it JS. I think the transition would have been so much easier if the official name started with "J".

Just rename it to "JS" (jay-ess) and forget about having the letters stand for anything.

Would be nice if Microsoft hadn't taken JScript

Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by [deleted] »

lelanthran wrote: post #161
Vinnl wrote: post #146

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An important feature of TypeScript is identifying problems in your code before the user runs it, i.e. before a browser even comes into play.

So? If supported natively by the browser the browser could compile it on download. You'll still get all the strong typing without have to wait for it to run. For example an error in a little used branch would cause an error before the branch even runs.

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Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by code_for_monkey »

someguyiguess wrote: post #128
siwatanejo wrote: post #3

I actually think that people should rather use EcmaScript name instead of JavaScript, because it's a way better name (much less confusing, given that this lang doesn't have anything to do with Java anyway). I wish Oracle started suing people to force everyone to use the better name.

EcmaScript is an awful name. It sounds too similar to eczema or ectoplasm. Ugly name.

the fact that it sounds bad out loud is its undoing

Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by freedomben »

xxs wrote: post #172
dtagames wrote: post #166

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I think most of us just call it JS now. And we really write mostly TS anyway.

that would be very culturally/industry specific. Personally, I do call it javascript.

Yeah definitely cultural. IME it's called JS only in chat as a shortcut. IRL people say "javascript"

Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by mikepurvis »

nunobrito wrote: post #165
brabel wrote: post #129

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Haha completely agree, it is the "scripting language" made in the image of Java! It's a great language by the way!

There was also beanshell if you remember, of course never as polished nor adopted like groovy but it was also fun to use.

Is groovy actually really "adopted" much of anywhere? I feel like for 99% of normal people, their only real exposure to it is as the DSL of gradle and jenkins.

I can't imagine writing anything of substance primarily in groovy.

Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)

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Post by tantalor »

serial_dev wrote: post #108
tonkinai wrote: post #92

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The example is indeed two years old. I also couldn't find any point in the article that explains why this is worth doing.

But it's a valid example, isn't it? Someone just wanted to share their Rust + JavaScript knowledge with people, and they got a cease and desist. It's clearly not ideal.

Given they did not change the name, it suggests the legal challenge had failed. So why do we care?
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