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Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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A friend’s daughter (young adult) told me about five years ago that cassette tapes are “cool” again. I was surprised because I always considered them to be the worst physical medium for music. I still have the cassette deck that I bought in the 90s for my hi-fi separate system but I haven’t listened to it in years. In the mid-2000s, I gave away most of my cassettes to a friend who had bought an old car that only had…

Good cassettes played with a good tape deck are actually really good for music. It naturally saturates and compresses the audio material which often leads to much more homogeneous musical experience. Also the frequency spectrum tends to soften too harsh recordings, which is also cool. It all depends on the genre of course. The typical high resolution classic concert is probably better to be listened from HQ flac or whatever.

Back in the days the only way poor bands could achieve some sort of release was on cassette, paired with car radios and kitchen players this for sure wasn't the best experience to listen to music. And unfortunately many professional tape productions weren't that great either. But this was a management and production problem.

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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I lived through vinyl, 8-track, cassettes, and CDs. I digitized all of my music over 20 years ago and no longer even own a physical media playback device. I can't fathom going back. Digital or bust.

Not trying to correct you, just looking for the right word. Digital isn't the right term here, because CDs are also digital. I'm trying to come up with the word for the opposite of physical media, but strangely I can't. Maybe streaming, but how would MP3s on a USB drive fit in?

"physical media" is an inaccurate, redundant, phrase.

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

#184

As soon as recordable CDs were affordable, I switched completely, and never looked back. Cassette tapes were nice when we didn't have anything better, but they were always a big pain in the back. Noisy, wearing out, skipping took a long time, making compilations took hours. I don't miss those times. Nowadays, I can play mp3's on a $3 microcontroller, at excellent quality, and I love it. Do you still use a kerosene la…

Yes, I actually do use my kerosene lamp when I go into my (shed) at night.

It also helps heat the shed in the winter, which is when it's mostly likely to be dark when I want to do some work in my shed.

Here's a nice resource where you can read more about kerosene lamps! https://www.sevarg.net/2022/10/09/keropunk-part-1-kerosene-l... (not my website, but great for learning about kerosene lamps)

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

#185
post #156
post #10

I lived through vinyl, 8-track, cassettes, and CDs. I digitized all of my music over 20 years ago and no longer even own a physical media playback device. I can't fathom going back. Digital or bust.

Not trying to correct you, just looking for the right word. Digital isn't the right term here, because CDs are also digital. I'm trying to come up with the word for the opposite of physical media, but strangely I can't. Maybe streaming, but how would MP3s on a USB drive fit in?

The issue here is, "physical" is a misleading word. Digital works are also held on physical media. The distinction is whether the work is stored on a dedicated physical object.

Edit: I suppose a jukebox confuses things as I think it belongs in the "physical media" box, but it isn't dedicated to a specific work. Hmm.

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

#186
I don’t think so. I spent a huge amount of time in my youth recording, trading, buying, and selling audio tapes (all from the metal/hardcore/punk underground). It was a lot of fun, but everyone I know was glad when other ways of sharing and spreading music became available. As a niche, yes otherwise no.

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

#187

As soon as recordable CDs were affordable, I switched completely, and never looked back. Cassette tapes were nice when we didn't have anything better, but they were always a big pain in the back. Noisy, wearing out, skipping took a long time, making compilations took hours. I don't miss those times. Nowadays, I can play mp3's on a $3 microcontroller, at excellent quality, and I love it. Do you still use a kerosene la…

Yes, I actually do use my kerosene lamp when I go into my (shed) at night. It also helps heat the shed in the winter, which is when it's mostly likely to be dark when I want to do some work in my shed. Here's a nice resource where you can read more about kerosene lamps! https://www.sevarg.net/2022/10/09/keropunk-part-1-kerosene-l... (not my website, but great for learning about kerosene lamps)

You can also just use your iPhone's torch and install the heating app. Drains your battery quickly though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSProgramming/comments/7tew81/hand...

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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> but it is really hard to make a good sounding cassette It is unfortunate that cassettes are the lowest fidelity consumer medium (of modern times). But there is some room to optimize within that space. If you are curious: The cassettes available today are Type I, Type II ("high bias") and Type IV ("metal"), each being higher fidelity than the last, but not all portable players supported these types of tape. Dolby B/…

> The cassettes available today are Type I, Type II ("high bias") and Type IV ("metal") That statement feels a litle misleading. The only type of cassettes produced today is Type I. Everything else is new old stock, where you might end up with a decades-old, chemically degraded cassette.

> decades-old, chemically degraded cassette

Somehow it never occurred to me. I wonder how all the C64 games in the basement are doing...

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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Are CDs more fragile? All of mine still seemed to work last I checked. I gave up on tapes years ago, because they'd always fuck up one way or the other. The sound quality was also annoyingly bad, and track search was a faff. (I think I prefer measles to tapes. Neither killed me, but at least nobody reminisces fondly about that time they had measles!)

Depends on what you mean by fragile. CDs are really susceptible to bitrot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot Archival discs are made with gold backing, which is much more robust than the aluminum reflector used in mass-pressed discs.

IME that's mostly a problem with self-recorded disks while pressed discs are quite durable in practice. Maybe if you keep them in a very humid/hot environment you get different results.

Re: Cassette tapes are making a comeback?

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Of course cassettes were all around me when I was younger; even my first car had a cassette deck. They seemed like an old relic in that time already - with the drawbacks mentioned in the article, so it was easy to put them away seemingly forever. However, I got "back" into cassettes recently with some new releases. Grabbed a FiiO CP-13, and while the quality still isn't great, with low wow and flutter it's perfectly…

> FiiO CP-13, and while the quality still isn't great The sad part is that the quality of modern cassette players is actually decidedly worse than their vintage counterparts. There's essentially only one company producing the actual mechanism (Tanashin) and they're cheaply made of low quality materials (plastic flywheels etc.). That's the main reason that the vintage machines are still fetching higher prices. Also I…

Tanashin stopped producing tape mechanisms years ago. The modern "Tanashin" tape mechanisms are Chinese clones.
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