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Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by 63stack »

bayindirh wrote: post #36
letmetweakit wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's rough ... it is a bad, bad world out there.

Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

This is just FUD, there is nothing dangerous in having an SSH server open to the internet that only allows key authentication. Sure, scanners will keep pinging it, but nobody is ever going to burn an ssh 0day on your home server.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #142
ramon156 wrote: post #80

Maintain on codeberg, mirror to GH. Tell everyone to contribute on CB done.

One problem is that GH gives you no way to disable PRs. And even if you write in BIG BOLD LETTERS that PRs should be on Codeberg not GH, people get upset and make a fuss over their "ignored" PRs and it ends up making unnecessary headaches for you over and over.

Can do it the @torvalds/linux way and have a bot auto-answer/close PRs. And, to be honest, probably is better to ignore people making a fuss over PRs.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by blibble »

mittermayr wrote: post #99

I hate these constant drama posts, but I am all for seeing competition. I think it's good to have a couple of top-tier companies offering the same service, and especially with git, it's been... lacklustre outside of Github, I'd say. Bitbucket was totally nice, but Atlassian and Jira and meh... Github has (mostly) steered clear of cross-product promotions until the CoPilot era washed all over us, and I wonder for how…

> I think it's good to have a couple of top-tier companies offering the same service

"top-tier" is not a term I would use to describe Microsoft

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by dlisboa »

mittermayr wrote: post #110

Additional note on Codeberg, which I think is great as a project, but I got curious on what infrastructure they are running on and how reliable this would be for larger corporate repos. Nov 22, 2025 https://blog.codeberg.org/letter-from-codeberg-onwards-and-u... Quotes from their website: Infrastructure status [...] We are running on 3 servers, one Gigabyte and 2 Dell servers (R730 and R740). Here's their current har…

https://status.codeberg.eu/status/codeberg

Their reliability is not great unfortunately. Currently their 24h uptime is 89% for the main site. They are partially degraded right now.

The 14 day uptime is 98% but I think that’s actually because some of their auxiliary systems have great uptime, the main site is never that great it seems.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by jappgar »

vthriller wrote: post #159
mkornaukhov wrote: post #39

IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…

> In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser How do you define "code navigation"? It might've got a bit easier with automatic highlighting of selected symbols, but in return source code viewer got way too laggy and, for a couple of years now, it has this weird bug with misplaced cursors if code is scrolled horizontally. I actually find myself using the "raw" button more and more often, or…

Hint: Type the '.' key on any code page or PR.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by baq »

miroljub wrote: post #151
TheDong wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Notably [go] ended up giving up on [gerrit] That's not accurate. They more or less only use Gerrit still. They started accepting Github PRs, but not really, see https://go.dev/doc/contribute#sending_a_change_github > You will need a Gerrit account to respond to your reviewers, including to mark feedback as 'Done' if implemented as suggested The comments are still gerrit, you really shouldn't use Github. The Go revi…

Many people confuse competence and dedication. A competent developer would be more likely to send a PR using the tool with zero friction than to dedicate a few additional hours of his life to create an account and figure out how to use some obscure.

A competent developer wouldn't call gerrit an obscure tool.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by delfinom »

Kelteseth wrote: post #41
exceptione wrote: post #38

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Crazy. Who would have an incentive to spend resources on DDoS'ing Codeberg? The only party I can think of would be Github. I know that the normalization of ruthlessness and winner-takes-all mentality made crime mandatory for large parts of the economy, but still cannot wrap my mind around it.

Not just them. For example, Qt self hosted cgit got ddos just two weeks ago. No idea why random open source projects getting attacked. > in the past 48 hours, code.qt.io has been under a persistent DDoS attack. The attackers utilize a highly distributed network of IP addresses, attempting to obstruct services and network bandwidth. https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2025-Nove...

Probably some little script kiddie fucks who think they are elite mega haxors and use their mommie's credit card to pay one of the ddos services readily accessible.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by maccard »

messe wrote: post #58
maccard wrote: post #46

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> They already disallow mirroring. In which direction? (I'd check myself but they're down...). That doesn't sound very open to me.

I was slightly wrong. You can manually mirror things, but they have removed a feature that allowed one to automatically mirror repositories hosted elsewhere. It was originally intended as an ease of migration tool, but ended up consuming too many resources. From their FAQ: > Why can't I mirror repositories from other code-hosting websites? > Mirrors that pull content from other code hosting services were problematic…

Ah, thanks. That’s a very sensible take from them!
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