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Post by fireflash38 »

chihuahua wrote: post #143
listenallyall wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always assuming every single thing can be improved - and expecting huge corporate entities to do it - seems like a recipe for failed expectations. Cable TV wasn't perfect, of course, but it was pretty damn good, especially in allowing everybody to have access to just about every show that was produced. That the "replacement" model is disappointing and a worse experience, really shouldn't come as a surprise.

It's interesting to hear your perspective, but I totally disagree about Cable TV. It's the worst paid service I've ever seen. 100+ channels of almost pure garbage that insults my intelligence at every turn. 1/3 of the time was ads, and of the remaining 2/3, much was taken up by "when we return..." and "before the break...". Plus most of the content was targeted towards morons. These days, you'd have to pay me $20+ pe…

Modern streaming is the same thing, except it's hidden under the illusion of choice.

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Post by devilbunny »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #170
devilbunny wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hands-down best DVR experience I had was a TiVo Slide remote (the top slid back to reveal a small but fully functional keyboard) paired to a PC running Windows 7 Media Center with a four-tuner InfiniTV Cablecard adapter. Obviously it's been a few years, but that was just smooth all around once I got it set up. Very high WAF. But Windows 7 is gone, and so is the TiVo Slide remote.

And so is CableCARD, for that matter.

Maybe they're not handing them out any more, but I've still got one and it still works in the TiVo (Edge?) that I have. It replaced that WMC DVR because WAF. Her genuine preference was for our old ReplayTV and its interface, but they didn't live long enough to make HD DVR's.

Turned out after I had already bought all that stuff due to flakiness that it was just some bad RAM that, really, was overkill - I could have just taken out the bad sticks and kept on rocking, in which case it probably would still be our DVR.

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Post by Larrikin »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #160
internetter wrote: post #82

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> competent companies are willing to take on all that, if you pay them a lot, which is why high end smart homes are flourishing. Citations needed, I can provide a lot of examples of high end equipment providing a worse experience.

Famously Bill Gates had a practically fully envisioned smart home by the early 2000s. With pretty much every wizmo and integration. Even superyachts nowadays are starting to see that from what I’ve heard.

He asked for more concrete examples because the professional companies are behind the consumer level products. Home Assistant is one of the biggest projects on GitHub for a reason. It's still stuck in the hobby space but everything they are doing lately is to push it past Apple Home for the regular user.

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Post by listenallyall »

chihuahua wrote: post #143
listenallyall wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always assuming every single thing can be improved - and expecting huge corporate entities to do it - seems like a recipe for failed expectations. Cable TV wasn't perfect, of course, but it was pretty damn good, especially in allowing everybody to have access to just about every show that was produced. That the "replacement" model is disappointing and a worse experience, really shouldn't come as a surprise.

It's interesting to hear your perspective, but I totally disagree about Cable TV. It's the worst paid service I've ever seen. 100+ channels of almost pure garbage that insults my intelligence at every turn. 1/3 of the time was ads, and of the remaining 2/3, much was taken up by "when we return..." and "before the break...". Plus most of the content was targeted towards morons. These days, you'd have to pay me $20+ pe…

Many of the most popular streaming shows were originally aired on broadcast TV (which most people watched via cable) - The Office, Friends, West Wing, Big Bang Theory, etc. Or originally for cable channels - Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Suits, etc.

Netflix has produced a few decent shows but most of its stuff is "targeted towards morons" or "pure garbage that insults my intelligence" - Love is Blind, Is it Cake.

Commercials arent great but they are passive - easy to ignore. Much rather have a 3-minute commercials break where I can go to the bathroom or check my phone than having to actively scroll for 90 seconds switching from app to app and navigating their awful interfaces to get back to the show I was watching the other day.

But that's just me - glad you like our new television overlords, they certainly love anyone bashing cable tv!

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Post by donkeylazy456 »

chihuahua wrote: post #142
lunias wrote: post #22

I don't understand Netflix's decision, but I'm long past caring about things like this. I've had PCs hooked up to all of my televisions for the past 15+ years because of how limiting and frustrating using any other device to play media from can be.

Same - I've been using an Intel NUC with Windows 10 for many years. It does everything I want: - Netflix - Youtube without ads via Firefox+uBlock Origin - Ripping DVDs and converting to .mp4 Those Small Form Factor PCs have only gotten cheaper over time - the most powerful PC I've ever owned in 30+ years is a $300 Minisforum (16 Cores, 16GB RAM) that's doing similar duty in the garage.

problem is Netflix deprecated perfect UWP app and made it bloody PWA.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

Larrikin wrote: post #183
MichaelZuo wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Famously Bill Gates had a practically fully envisioned smart home by the early 2000s. With pretty much every wizmo and integration. Even superyachts nowadays are starting to see that from what I’ve heard.

He asked for more concrete examples because the professional companies are behind the consumer level products. Home Assistant is one of the biggest projects on GitHub for a reason. It's still stuck in the hobby space but everything they are doing lately is to push it past Apple Home for the regular user.

Are you confused about what early 2000s means?

The ideal integrated smart home was already achieved before smartphones existed.

Recent advancements have mostly been about pushing the original 100 million+ usd cost lower.

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by MathMonkeyMan »

1. Download file of content you wish to consume (this usually, but not always, involves piracy).

2. Put file onto computer. Maybe the computer you already downloaded it onto.

3. Plug computer into TV or monitor.

4. Open file to consume content.

One of these days I'll get around to setting up something like this for my dad:

- laptop sits under the TV (maybe asleep), occasionally checking for commands

- dad sends command from his computer "I want to torrent"

- laptop sitting under the TV hosts remote web interface for qbittorrent or similar

- dad sends command from his phone "I want to watch movie now"

- movie starts playing on TV from laptop, and dad can control it with his phone

Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by perryizgr8 »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #188

1. Download file of content you wish to consume (this usually, but not always, involves piracy). 2. Put file onto computer. Maybe the computer you already downloaded it onto. 3. Plug computer into TV or monitor. 4. Open file to consume content. One of these days I'll get around to setting up something like this for my dad: - laptop sits under the TV (maybe asleep), occasionally checking for commands - dad sends comma…

Jellyfin is great for this if you don't want to put the computer right next to the TV. Set up your torrent program to download to a particular directory and set up Jellyfin to watch it. The most seamless experience to watch anything. The only downside compared to Netflix is you need to wait 10-15 minutes to let the torrent finish. Also sometimes you have to hunt for the subtitles if you want them.

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Post by dredmorbius »

joking wrote: post #99
paxys wrote: post #53

I remember the time when smart homes used to feature in sci-fi literature and concept videos. Being able to walk around your house while having everything seamlessly synced and tailored to your preferences was clearly the future. TV, movies and music automatically playing in whatever room your enter. Files and all other data seamlessly synced between all your devices. Not having to think about how to make the tech wo…

there was an ad, or a presentation in a conference keynote, from when microsoft built phones, showing a user leaving the house and continuing what was he doing in the car in a very futuristic way. I can't find it now, but was something crazy by then, the continuum idea was also a good one, but here we are, walled gardens and nothing smart about them.

Look up the AT&T "You Will" advertising campaign sometime. This ran beginning in 1993, and I remember seeing at least a few of the spots at the time.

What these ads (and much speculative fiction, say, Arthur C. Clark particularly the "newspads" (tablet computers) in 2001 and "minisecs" (smartphones) in Imperial Earth) portrayed was capabilities without consideration of commercial and market imperatives. Capabilities promised empowerment and enablement. Markets delivered enshitiffication and enclosures of commons.

And as Timothy B. Lee noted, "the ads were mostly wrong about one thing: the company that brought these technologies to the world was not AT&T". AT&T's networks deliver much of the content and messaging which was portrayed, but the services themselves are not rooted in AT&T, either the original firm or its remonopolised successor organisation.

https://www.vox.com/2014/9/6/6113853/we-live-in-the-future-a...>

Microsoft's vision was portrayed as well in the Bill Gates book The Road Ahead, published about the same time (1995). Again, it envisioned much, but little of that vision was delivered directly by Microsoft (though much of it was in fact experienced on computers running Microsoft's operating system, at least until the smartphone revolution supplanted it).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Ahead_(Gates_book)>

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