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The realities of being a pop star

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Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by CoastalCoder »

sandblast wrote: post #137
decasia wrote: post #6

I thought this was a really good piece of writing. It’s rare to do something like this because the job discourages it by putting PR filters on everything you say. My uncle was a pretty big pop star in the 1960s. His group at one point had a big fanzine, they were household names across the country, over time they had stalkers and weird fans and all that, made movies and albums, had big parties and knew other famous p…

Sorry, I'm curious: why it "was", not "is", a really good piece of writing?

Presumably the tense refers to the time of the reading, not the time of the article's existence.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by verall »

dbspin wrote: post #144

While this is a fascinating perspective, I find this analysis of the source of hate online to be under-examined and self serving. Sure, any public figure will be the target of hatred, negative projection, ridicule. And doubtless that's doubly true for female celebrities. But much of this is driven by envy - envy fuelled by the gilded age level of inequality we're currently experiencing. By the performative nature of…

Do you think Charli's music is unoriginal and commercial?

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by verall »

bigmealbigmeal wrote: post #149
jameslk wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In particular, her blowing up was highly influenced by the stylistic direction, composition, production and sound engineering of people associated with the PC Music record label. No, if anything Charli XCX was the one that put PC Music on the map. She has been a fairly big name since 2012 > she was around artistic innovators like Sophie, yes, but THEY are the ones that pioneered the sound. Sophie didn’t pioneer the…

Charli XCX was around before PC Music, but the sound she is known for and became famous for originated from PC Music. The fact that she delivered a bit of "minor popstar" cred to them is fine, but the key to my point is that they determined the sound that made her iconic. Sophie was an example. I didn't see it necessary to talk about all the artists involved in PC Music to make the point that the producers on the lab…

Your point is clear, but Charli does a lot of production on her albums, so I'm not sure she's the one to make this point about. She's not a once in a lifetime producing genius like Sophie, but she doesn't claim to be. Yung Lean did not produce the sound that made him famous either.

I think in the modern day, due to Internet, access to DAWs, etc, a lot of pop stars actually do/did much more of their own writing and production, see Billie & Finneas or Chappel Roan. It's just much more accessible, there's lots of pretty faces on social media so to really break out, you either need some real connections or real chops.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by brabel »

NaomiLehman wrote: post #163
brabel wrote: post #153

> We are still trained to hate women, to hate ourselves and to be angry at women if they step out of the neat little box that public perception has put them in. I really don’t see this. Female singers seem to be enjoying about as much freedom to do and act in whatever way they please as it’s possible without basically letting them get away with criminal behavior… and even then many openly talk about doing drugs and o…

Few female pop stars manage to gain success without appealing to the "male gaze" even if they produce stuff for women as their target demographic. On the contrary people mostly don't care if male musicians are hot - Ed Sheeran or make very questionable decisions - Drake. Look at top 20 male and female popular artists on Spotify and try to think how many of them are agreeable and objectively good looking. https://kwor…

But I was talking about is that she believes there’s a hate of women, that they must fit some preconceived image… and what I see in real pop stars is the total opposite . They seem to do all they can to look scandalous and shocking. They mostly go for the hot female image but some don’t. Being good looking yes is an expectation but how does that have anything to do with hating women and patriarchy??

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by wtcactus »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #29
IshKebab wrote: post #22

> I find that this is often where the stupidity narrative can be born. I’ve always wondered why someone else’s success triggers such rage and anger in certain people and I think it probably all boils down to the fact that the patriarchal society we unfortunately live in has successfully brainwashed us all. We are still trained to hate women, to hate ourselves and to be angry at women if they step out of the neat litt…

How’s that 2016 promise of LA to NYC autonomous driving goal going for Musk? Or his Cybercab venture going? And the decision to not use LIDAR in his vehicles? Or the Cybertruck’s dismal engineering and sales?

- “Hi. I’m an engineer at NASA.”

- “(Scoffs). You’re an engineer? Yeah, right. What about that Challenger explosion? And how come you don’t put anyone on the Moon for 50 years? Engineer…”

That’s how your comment reads.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

WalterBright wrote: post #80
dsr_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Delivering 9 of 10 revolutionary things would, I agree, be amazing. However... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autono... making 31 public predictions about his self-driving cars over 20 years and only being right about one of them is not so clever.

He's still the most successful businessman in history, by far. Pretty good for a loser.

He’s a hype man. Tesla is a meme stock and always has been. There is no objective valuation that Tesla should be valued as highly as it is. The future projected revenue and definitely not the current revenue support it. Sales popped right before the EV credit is going away. But at most that is probably a dead cat bounce.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by Balgair »

WalterBright wrote: post #54

> especially when your old friends mock and ridicule you for caring about something absolutely pointless. My dad flew 32 missions over Germany. He watched men die. 80% of his cohort did not return. He expected to die and made his peace with it. He told me once that when he returned home, he was struck by the trivial problems people had and obsessed over. After all, they weren't flying a mission tomorrow with near cer…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx-fnR5G1cs

The cereal aisle scene from Hurt Locker always did it for me

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by Balgair »

If any 'normal' person wants to experience the smallest titch of this, go take your best American accent to someplace remote (but not in North America or tourist-Europe).

The locals there will try to pin which celebrity you are or if they have seen you before on the television.

It's not a 100% thing, maybe a 10% thing, of course.

But the more remote you are, the higher the hit rate.

It's because they know they are remote and off the paths, so they think that the only reason that an American is there is because they are filming something. Note this doesn't work with French speaking areas.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by singleshot_ »

decasia wrote: post #6

I thought this was a really good piece of writing. It’s rare to do something like this because the job discourages it by putting PR filters on everything you say. My uncle was a pretty big pop star in the 1960s. His group at one point had a big fanzine, they were household names across the country, over time they had stalkers and weird fans and all that, made movies and albums, had big parties and knew other famous p…

This was slightly better than reading something generated by an AI but I have a similar sense that I am dumber for having read two paragraphs of it.
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