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Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

This is the fundamental misunderstanding that the AI techies have. Normal people don’t want a “conversation“ with a computer. Conversations happen between people. Computers, at best, receive orders and carry them out. They are tools, not companions, and they should do nothing unless explicitly told to do it.

  Normal people don’t want a “conversation“ with a computer. 
Perhaps, but there is absolutely a subset of the population who uses AI as a human companion.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> I grew up playing Snake on a Nokia phone! The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me.

Sorry not everyone has such a primitive mind to paper over the chasm. Like, ok, feel free to entertain yourself with a ImageVideoGenBot all your like and see if that blows your mind better than snake, but how would that entertainment help when your experience is made worse by AI integration?

But also, that's just nonsense, we're nowhere close to "fluent conversation with a super smart AI" watch your own ads where it can't even understand that 150% scaling is already set and "super smartly" recommends setting it

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> it's hard to believe we're going to see a version of Windows that isn't bloated with AI functionality most people didn't ask for. All the leadership need to do is read these types of articles and they’ll see what’s going on outside the walls. One wonders how the internal incentives can be so wrong.

Because they're right. They'll all collude to make sure that you can't install a non-"smart" OS, just like you can't buy an non-"smart" tv, and the public will be well-trained to mumble something about the "market" and call you names ("luddite," "techie," "boomer," whatever...) when you complain about it. Once a generation has been raised who never saw a computer that couldn't refuse to let you type what you wanted i…

Yeah it worked everytime so despite complaints so they have all the reason to believe it will work this time either.

The future is never certain and, as always, there will be unexpected and rapid societal shifts that may change things rapidly, but those may well be 300 years out.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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post #17

At this particular moment in time, the old quote about "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" feels relevant on a couple of levels. I keep waiting for the bubble to burst and for these executives to be forced into finally confronting the realities of this technology, but it is taking a very long time indeed.

Not all bubbles burst, some deflate quite silently especially if people expect them to burst.

Microsoft didn't care to ask users when they put copilot into everything and they won't ask users when they'll "consolidate the experience" to whatever works.

And just so I can claim that I "knew it all along" in the future I'll say that some form of "agent OS" is here to stay when the dust settles.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#185
post #5

> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

Isn’t it just that people are unimpressed with Microsoft Copilot? I’ve always felt that other models work quite well. If the implementation on their side has issues, they shouldn’t blame users for disliking it.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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post #5

> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

Also on this side, on consulting agencies now it seems everyone is getting evaluation KPIs regarding AI use on project work, even when it doesn't make sense for the delivery scenario.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#187

This Microsoft response reminds me of the 2018 Blizzcon event, where the Diablo Immortal developer challenged the audience with "Do you guys not have phones?" when the audience asked if the game was coming to PC. Then - like now - it seemed that they couldn't understand that what they made was not what their customers wanted.

And yet Diablo Immortal made about a billion dollars, orders of magnitude more than the other Diablo games combined. Sound like they knew exactly what their customers wanted.

https://mobilegamer.biz/three-years-after-a-fiery-launch-dia...

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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post #5

> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

Yep it’s a fluent conversation with an arsehole you can’t get away from and who’s constantly trying to get one over you.

The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy was supposed to be a comically bad vision of the future not a blueprint.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#189

But why integrate AI so deeply into Windows instead of 1. keeping Windows as small and lean as possible, and let it do the things an operating system is for, 2. offering some AI applications that can be installed optionally by the users who want them, i.e. turn their AI applications into external software that can be installed/used or not, like Microsoft Office.

They do neither of those things because, unlike you, they don't care about improving the user experience. They care about making money through any possible means. 1. Making the system lean means that you'd have to exclude all the ads, all the free tracking you can do to extract more money, all tie-ins with additional Microsoft services you could've done. Getting paid for the product key is just one step of many in th…

> No, you NEED for your investment to have returns, you need AI to succeed

If you need AI to succeeed, you better make sure that the users will love the experience, instead of forcing a bad experience upon them.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#190

> people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video > super smart were there any US presidents named Bob? No U.S. president has ever gone by “Bob” as a first name or nickname. A few presidents had “Robert” in their full name, but none were commonly known as Bob: James Abram Garfield — middle name Abram, not Robert James Earl Carter Jr. (Jimmy Carter)…

... Bloody hell. I do not routinely talk to our magical robot overlords, but I had vaguely assumed that they were better than that at this point.

> George Herbert Walker Bush / George Walker Bush — no Robert

I do like how it seems to have decided that Bush I and Bush II are the same person.

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