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How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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Algorithms that are profit-motivated (trying hard to get you hooked) also reward "engaging" content which means clickbait, ragebait and content that often triggers some emotions and is easy to consume. So not the most balanced content.

Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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We need 'unfluencers'. The problem is that it would just be the same few message repeated ad nauseum: - Treat it all like it's trying to sell you something - Think for yourself - Nothing is as simple as it seems - One person does not represent an entire race/country/group (ie. anecdata is not truth) etc. As they say, however, a lie can travel the world twice before the truth has tied its shoe laces.

There is a critical problem with influencers: once they build a large audience, they often feel compelled to stick to the same message, even if they later realize it's wrong, because influence itself becomes a business and a source of power.

Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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As a long time proponent of reasonable-ism I disagree with a lot of this. The assumption that a lot of our problems stem from 2 sides just seeing an issue differently is just nonsense in this day and age. The big Problem, is that one side has slid heavily into authoritarianism, and the other side is completely ill-equipped to fight it. On any particular issue, the right will say whatever gets them more Power, and the…

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Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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It is great that Jesus works for you, but you have to separate real-Jesus versus storybook-Jesus. No doubt he lived, but written stories can be elaborated on. For all I know, Jesus could have been the world's first great magician. The world has seen quite a few people in it, some quite remarkable - for which stories have been written. No deity or supernatural abilities need to apply. Words in a book/internet aren't a…

You are right, faith is always needed.

Don't fall into a fallacy: just because "no deity or supernatural abilities need to apply" doesn't mean that a deity or supernatural abilities haven't applied.

The only honest positions we can take are: I believe / I don't believe.

Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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> Jesus is not fictional. Strong claims require strong evidence. Some book written by many, some properly delusional or crazy folks, claiming various outlandish things not physically possible these days (staying away from word "lies" but not too far, basic physics laws worked the same 2000 years ago). Or preaching behavior absolutely unacceptable these days (Old testament would force you to be murderer pretty quickly…

> Strong claims require strong evidence.

Believing a Jewish man formed his own religious sect and was crucified isn't exactly a strong claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Existence...

Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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Here is a program for avoiding insanity:

1) Always listen to your rational adversary, repeat their arguments back to them to their satisfaction rather than in caricature.

2) List facts; states of affairs that are not in dispute. Adduce no fact in isolation.

3) Form the strongest version of your rational counterparts' argument.

4) Apply reason faithfully to analyze.

5) Lather rinse repeat.

It seems the above is the best humans have every been able to do, it is child's play that we somehow forgot, maybe because we labelled it as something obscure like "the scientific method" or "legal process". I think this is as simple as "follow your nose".

Re: How to stay sane in a world that rewards insanity

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> Jesus is not fictional. There is apparently evidence that there was a Jesus¹ who preached and was crucified for causing a pain for those in power. But the version of Jesus in the bible is likely no more real than the Abraham in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012). -------- [1] or someone going by another name which became Jesus over time, many names in the new testament are suspiciously unlike those likely to be…

Not at all. The bible is famously allegorical which is known by everyone who practices catholicism, but the historical evidence and written records are quite clear - there was this incredibly charismatic guy who grew a following, helped the poor and got crucified.
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