I have owned at least one of every Pebble watch since the beginning, have written watch faces for myself (but never posted them on the store), have received my Pebble 2 Duo, and am looking forward to receiving my Pebble Time 2. I am thrilled that Eric Migicovsky and his team are bringing the Pebble back to life. It was amazing that the Rebble team kept the watches alive all this time. But it's all open source, and do…
Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
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Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#182If you're looking for an alternative to all of this, the BangleJS v2 is both cheaper and more hackable than the Pebble watches. It doesn't tick all of the same boxes, but it's performed well for me over the last 6 months. Here's what it offers: * Screen is fully visible under direct sunlight * With the screen always on the battery lasts me well over a week * Heart rate monitor * EXTREMELY hackable, everything can be…
Don't remove that little tape that prevents the watch from shocking you with 3 continuous volts of electricity!
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#183I view this entire thing through an extremely simple, reductive lens: Rebble effectively had free reign on this ecosystem for years, and could have at any time decided to try and capitalize on it further. They still can! But instead they're apparently interested in rent seeking while Core makes real headway. It's clear that Eric and Core want to make something now. It's not clear what Rebble wants, but it's clear the…
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is drama for Watchy, but I don't think there is any for BangleJS (other than being a bit iffy on iphones)
What's the drama with Watchy? I wasn't aware of any but I didn't play with mine that much either.
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#185The reason why I cancel my pre-order now is I a clear (to me) sign that we have a "it's only software, I'm building the the important part here" situation -the same reason why I won't by a boox product until they change their mind.
The moment I'll come back will be the one when a significant part of the money you spend on a Pebble will automatically go into the software ecosystem (which makes Pebble for $200+ interesting in the first place) and it's easy to see how this money is spent.
I'm also 'scraping' content for my personal projects when I just need the data, but Eric is building a business here, and there had been a valid and clearly communicated suspicion about Eric acting like "goodbye fools, and thanks for the fish". And he agreed not to do so and he lied. How can I know I'm not buying $225 brick supported only by a single person who ditched the community?
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#186That's putting aside how gross it is for your personal comms to leak in public when you might be a little more candid about what's going on.
How can you trust someone who's willing to violate your privacy like that?
The whole drama is interesting as an outsider, but I can't be left without feeling that newPebble is trying to jump start a commercial venture via shortcuts.
Rebble was never going to change the world but they seemed to be very good at maintaining status quo + many small benefits and just reliably serving that.
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#187If nobody trusts either party to keep up their end of the bargain, why not solve it with licensing? Isn't this the exact point of copyleft licenses? Relicense PebbleOS as GPL, relicense Rebble as AGPL. Problem is then solved, no?
If both sides don't trust each other, no amount license nor contract would suffice.
It would be a headache to prove the other side violate licenses.
In fact, they are already fighting on whether Eric was scraping data illegally or not, and people's opinions are divided. This would be an expensive lawsuit for both sides.
At the current level of trust, it's better not to do any business together at all.
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#188Publishing private correspondence with single board member(s) is super distasteful because the opinion of one member is not the opinion of the whole board. Sure, he got tacit agreement from one, but that's not agreement with the organization as a whole. That's putting aside how gross it is for your personal comms to leak in public when you might be a little more candid about what's going on. How can you trust someone…
Who's to say he didn't have permission to post from his conversation partner? He doesn't need permission from the people he's talking about (just like we don't need his permission to post about him here).
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#189Publishing private correspondence with single board member(s) is super distasteful because the opinion of one member is not the opinion of the whole board. Sure, he got tacit agreement from one, but that's not agreement with the organization as a whole. That's putting aside how gross it is for your personal comms to leak in public when you might be a little more candid about what's going on. How can you trust someone…
> How can you trust someone who's willing to violate your privacy like that? Who's to say he didn't have permission to post from his conversation partner? He doesn't need permission from the people he's talking about (just like we don't need his permission to post about him here).
Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward
#190Reselling open source content is always going to be bad taste.