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.NET MAUI is coming to Linux and the browser

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Post by Antibabelic »

mrcsharp wrote: post #136
mwkaufma wrote: post #2

My kingdom for a UI toolkit that can be used to make real CAD programs, and not yet-more things that just look like webviews and could just be a webpage.

This 100%. I hate the trend of UX/UI that got unleashed upon us in the last decade of the web. Everything is scaled up for touch interactions and has to have fancy animation and very "comfortable" spacing around elements. I wish we can go back to UIs that focus on information density and usability. I love looking at Japanese websites because of this.

Why do you hate it?

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Post by jeroenhd »

zerr wrote: post #175
jeroenhd wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can make CAD programs with any toolkit as long as you have a GPU surface to render your actual CAD output to. You can do anything with this toolkit from weather apps to video editors, map analysis, and PDF editors. You can check out the Avalonia demo reel to see what you can already do with the .NET GUI stack that MAUI now uses on Linux and on the web: https://avaloniaui.net/showcase

GPU surface is one thing, but I believe OP means the actual UI controls: buttons, tabs, combo boxes, data grids, multi-window support, etc...

I don't think that's a problem? The .NET library this is about, that now supports MAUI code unchanged, is already used in programs like https://github.com/sourcegit-scm/sourcegit/blob/master/scree... and https://github.com/GPUOpen-Tools/GPU-Reshape/blob/main/Docum...

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Post by oaiey »

pathartl wrote: post #157
latentsea wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never build a frontend on a .NET technology. Period. They always end up unsupported in the end. Just use standard web technologies and thank yourself later. I've been a .NET dev for a decade now and that's what I've learnt.

Blazor is pretty great. It is mature at this point and MS is using it internally more and more. Trying to go back to something like React makes me shudder. It's not perfect, but it's better than many alternatives.

I agree. For Blazor there is hope. It is standard based (web assembly, HTML, css) and it feels very intuitive particularly when compared to other spa frameworks like react. Also you can reuse all your html, css and design systems you have. Which is huge because like that it hooks up with the whole web development stack.

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Post by tjpnz »

glzone1 wrote: post #81
PenguinCoder wrote: post #74

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All of those are examples of overbloated, slow, horrible user experience apps.

Does their market share back up your take of them as horrible apps? Are there QT or GTK competitors crushing them? I always hear how terrible electron apps are, but the companies picking electron seem to get traction QT or other apps don't and seem to have a good cross platform story as well.

They said horrible user experience apps, not horrible apps. You can still deliver an app with a horrible user experience and build a profitable business. Ever done an expense report?

Companies aren't picking Electron due to inherent shortcomings in other platforms, they're picking it because it's easier (and cheaper) to find JavaScript devs who can get up to speed with it quickly.

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Post by cachius »

genezeta wrote: post #151

In case anyone cares: I go to "Launch MAUI in your browser" [0] in section "Try It Right Now". I click on "Word puzzle - A word puzzle game", third of the demo apps. I click on the "Randomize" button. Tiles start shifting around. I click on the left arrow at the top to go back to the main menu. The whole thing becomes locked with the word puzzle on the background and the main menu on top of it. Nothing is clickable a…

Yeah the shuffling takes ages. Once it's finished you can go back. Also the movement of the tiles feels very strange with the mouse. The Click-Drag sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. No visual feedback is given on click. The tiles don't move but teleport, which is strange for a click-drag interaction. A simple click would have been better, or a move animation. Someone else noticed it, too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45893986#45897805

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Post by cachius »

LandR wrote: post #160

The demos barely work for me at all on Chrome. The sliding puzzle is really finicky, have to try multiple times to slide stuff, the top left (back) arrow stopped working altogether until I refreshed the page, which of course takes you back to the original page... The time picker looks awful with the numbers not centrally aligned to the control (they look too high), and it's finnicky to use / same with the date picker…

It also locks the entire app when you go back during shuffling

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45893986#45897572

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Post by torben-friis »

mastazi wrote: post #82
xg15 wrote: post #46

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It's also an interesting question, why, in traditional rich desktop applications, I can't say I have ever missed the ability to select and copy text from the UI chrome - whereas on the web I'd definitly miss it and in badly designed mobile apps, I often do. I think some part of UI design degraded with the web, where there used to be a clearer distinction between "user data" and "app chrome" areas than there is today.…

> why, in traditional rich desktop applications, I can't say I have ever missed the ability to select and copy text from the UI I do miss this on an almost daily basis and I have stopped paying for services that force me to use an app without offering a website. The last instance of this was just a couple days ago when I could not copy a tracking number from an e-commerce app (to then paste it into the shipping compa…

Most mobile experiences (and macOS desktop) let you select unselectable stuff with OCR.

For macOS is by screencap and selecting on preview, for phones in their respective “ai analysis views” usually long pressing the bottom.

I know it’s a silly flow when it could be selectable straight away, just pointing it out.

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Post by boobsbr »

genezeta wrote: post #151

In case anyone cares: I go to "Launch MAUI in your browser" [0] in section "Try It Right Now". I click on "Word puzzle - A word puzzle game", third of the demo apps. I click on the "Randomize" button. Tiles start shifting around. I click on the left arrow at the top to go back to the main menu. The whole thing becomes locked with the word puzzle on the background and the main menu on top of it. Nothing is clickable a…

Tried the calculator:

7/9 = 1

Tried the RPN calculator:

Can't push any numbers to the stack, so I can't use any operator.

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