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Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by pessimizer »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #29
ethin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only. Accessibility on Linux isn't as good as it is on Windows. It's getting better, but there are so few people actually working on it that it will take quite a while to get there. Which results in anyone who uses Linux who needs accessibility to suffer very weird problems like not even being able to install it because the installer is inaccessible in some way, or it flat out breaking depending on hardware or bec…

Let's be realistic, accessibility — whether you like it or not — is an edge case. This is also why as you said, the amount of people working on it is low. It is really not the limiting factor in Linux desktop adoption. The inherent fragmentation and HW compatibility issues are much more pertinent. Buy the wrong laptop, and you have to fight with X, wayland and Nvidia graphics like a terminally inclined caveman in dan…

Not only is accessibility important in and of itself, but starting with a clean, accessible base implies standardization and interop, and makes things a lot easier to automate and extend.

Things that challenge accessibility plugins challenge any plugins. Steps away from accessibility are always steps towards lock-in.

> The inherent fragmentation and HW compatibility issues are much more pertinent.

But you seem to desire this. Don't buy the wrong laptop if you like lock-in; Apple and MS aren't making their OS compatible with your every hardware whim. Or learn how to reverse-engineer and write drivers.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by AlienRobot »

a5c11 wrote: post #48

It's funny to see how Windows and Linux completely switched sides. Linux once being the clumsy one, hard to install, even harder to configure, mediocre UX, running on poor device drivers and requiring hours spent on the internet to solve a problem. Today, replace the "Linux" word with "Windows" in the previous sentence.

To me it's sad that Linux never became a good desktop OS, Windows just became worse and worse until it became worse than Linux :(

When I upgraded to 7 I tried Linux and I simply hated that I had to deal with the terminal and install strange third-party programs from strange forums to get anything working. Then I had to upgrade to 11 and I had to run strange terminal programs to install it without without creating a Microsoft account, and everyone recommends using some third-party Windows power tools to fix what Microsoft did to Windows. I could not believe it. IT IS THE SAME THING!

Now I'm using Linux, and I don't like it, but least it isn't spyware.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by LogicHound »

mikkupikku wrote: post #72
LogicHound wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big budget games are often the ones that people are playing. Sure there have been a few big flops as of late, but a huge number of people are playing that require kernel level anti-cheat and DRM that does not work on Linux. There are also other issues around how well those games work. Some games will work perfectly fine. I am not disputing that. It is a bit of a lottery though e.g. I had annoying sound issues wit…

On Linux, the really old games just work, as do virtually all new games with the exception of those very few big budget new releases. If those are the games you really want to play then Windows is the answer, have fun ponying up your drivers license to Microsoft for the privilege of getting root kitted by those games. Literally everything else just works on Linux, one click install and play through steam, no bullshit…

> On Linux, the really old games just work, as do virtually all new games with the exception of those very few big budget new releases.

It really seems like you aren't reading what I said. I accept that old games will often work fine, provided they are on a store like GoG or Steam. Big budget releases are often what people want to play.

> If those are the games you really want to play then Windows is the answer, have fun ponying up your drivers license to Microsoft for the privilege of getting root kitted by those games.

It isn't about what I want. It is about what is the reality for the vast majority of people. I would rather everyone play games that work on Linux. Unfortunately many of the people I play games like playing new titles, often they only work well on Windows. There is a social aspect of this that many people on here ignore.

> Literally everything else just works on Linux, one click install and play through steam, no bullshit fiddling around.

They don't though. There are always odd issues with games e.g. borderless window doesn't work in a lot of games, because the mouse will get lost. Having that happen mid-match sucks, having fullscreen window has it own draw backs. I won't get into performance and sound issues as I've already explained the issues there.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by TiredOfLife »

breve wrote: post #2

The solution is to run Linux. KDE is a good desktop environment: https://kde.org/ 90% of Windows games run on Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45736925 LibreOffice is an okay office suite (good enough for my purposes): https://www.libreoffice.org/ GIMP is a good image editor: https://www.gimp.org/ VLC is a good media player: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

> VLC is a good media player

VLC is a broken mess and has always been a broken mess.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by zenoprax »

mzajc wrote: post #91
breve wrote: post #2

The solution is to run Linux. KDE is a good desktop environment: https://kde.org/ 90% of Windows games run on Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45736925 LibreOffice is an okay office suite (good enough for my purposes): https://www.libreoffice.org/ GIMP is a good image editor: https://www.gimp.org/ VLC is a good media player: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Another great media player for those who prefer minimalist UI: https://mpv.io/ . Includes yt-dlp integration and a much nicer terminal interface.

And much better keyboard control. It can also do interesting things such as run in 1:1 scaling mode (for example, 4K on a 1080p monitor) and then you can use your mouse to zoom in and out (wheel) and Ctrl+drag to pan around.

VLC walked so MPV could run.

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Post by vintermann »

sd9 wrote: post #77

In my domain (motorsports), almost all software is ancient 3rd party stuff only available as windows desktop apps. I’ve tried emulators but performance is abysmal for these apps. There are also all sorts of weird networking things that don’t work. And generally when you work with a new team which has a different tech stack, there just isn’t time within the context of a race weekend to faff. I’m unfortunately locked i…

Having once worked with maintaining an ancient 3rd party windows desktop app, I'm surprised you don't have problems with them on recent windows. I guarantee you the developers do. They must be truly heroic maintainers if none of those frustrations bleed through to you.

A time will come when the easiest way to run these beasts is in a docker container running wine, and I don't think it will be long.

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Post by lelanthran »

AlienRobot wrote: post #174
lvncelot wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't they're used for slightly different things though? GIMP for image manipulation and Krita for digital drawing? (Krita is pretty awesome though, it's up there with Blender for me)

What do you want to do in GIMP that Krita can't do with a better UI?

> What do you want to do in GIMP that Krita can't do with a better UI?

Adjust levels in photos.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by thenickdude »

Tor3 wrote: post #106
breve wrote: post #2

The solution is to run Linux. KDE is a good desktop environment: https://kde.org/ 90% of Windows games run on Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45736925 LibreOffice is an okay office suite (good enough for my purposes): https://www.libreoffice.org/ GIMP is a good image editor: https://www.gimp.org/ VLC is a good media player: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Japanese Windows software mostly don't run, or does it badly, with Wine on Linux. Unfortunately. I've been a full-time Linux user since 1992 and this frustrates me. Some of the software won't even pass the install stage. I'm forced to run this on wife's Windows 10 PC, which has its own set of nightmarish problems. Japanese software houses develop for one target: Windows. As a rule. They don't really know about anythi…

I've run Japanese windows software under Wine, and with no configuration it was a sea of crashy mojibake. With the right locale configured, it worked fine.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by AlienRobot »

naikrovek wrote: post #78
a5c11 wrote: post #48

It's funny to see how Windows and Linux completely switched sides. Linux once being the clumsy one, hard to install, even harder to configure, mediocre UX, running on poor device drivers and requiring hours spent on the internet to solve a problem. Today, replace the "Linux" word with "Windows" in the previous sentence.

they have definitely not completely switched sides. Linux is still clumsy and hard to configure if everything isn't configured for you. Linux has worse UX than Windows has ever had (I'm including windows 8 in that comparison) Really liking Linux doesn't make Windows worse, and it doesn't make Linux better. Watch someone who is not familiar with Linux and how it works attempt to install it and use it. Do not intervene…

I wouldn't compare the installation process since most people can't install Windows, but Linux does have an astounding gap in basic usability.

Every time I see a gnome app without a menubar I can't help but feel like Linux shoots itself in the foot just because Windows has two feet.

Re: YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs

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Post by pessimizer »

kkan wrote: post #6
breve wrote: post #2

The solution is to run Linux. KDE is a good desktop environment: https://kde.org/ 90% of Windows games run on Linux: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45736925 LibreOffice is an okay office suite (good enough for my purposes): https://www.libreoffice.org/ GIMP is a good image editor: https://www.gimp.org/ VLC is a good media player: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

I think that is the main issue. 90% games is a lot, but is not nearly enough when the most popular multiplayer titles simply do not work due to usage of anti-cheat. For example you cannot play the new Battlefield 6. As for GIMP, while I understand it can do many things as Photoshop, it is not close in terms of features and the UX is unfortunately terrible.

GIMPs UX is wonderful, and Photoshop UX is poison. The problem is that after torturing yourself to learn Photoshop, and sitting in it for 8 hours a day (for many people; I worked in prepress) makes you think that it has been designed rationally rather than simply cobbled together and stuffed with ads. Illustrator, being older, is even worse.

People who work with Photoshop have never worked with any other thing. The way they learned to edit bitmaps was through Photoshop. They can't separate the act and the product in their heads. Thank god for Affinity getting into the mix.

One just has to deal with GIMP as it is, and stop trying to project Photoshop paradigms onto it. People just need to stop thinking of FOSS as the generic, off-brand or ersatz versions that pass or fail due to their degree of imitation of some other product.

IMO, every step GIMP takes towards Photoshop UI is a regression. GIMP's problems have been technical, such as color management and non-destructive editing, and they're gradually falling away.

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