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YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by netdevphoenix »

speak_plainly wrote: post #24

There was a time when the algorithm was truly amazing and the recommendations were smart, spot-on, and mostly high quality. I don't know what happened but you have to search now for decent content. The recommendations part of YouTube just seems to give me old content or will show me things I've already watched. Despite it feeling almost user-hostile, I still use Youtube,

The algorithm was slightly different and it was working on a different kind of data (mostly videos). Now it is working also on shorts and it has to deal with the rise of automated videos, videos with misleading titles and other hacks by malicious actors.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by netsharc »

kelnos wrote: post #150
ac29 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After Game of thrones season 8, people wonder why they should invest into a show when there’s a high chance it won’t pay off. GoT was going downhill way before the final season. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by investing in a show. TV watching should be enjoyable, you dont have to watch things you dont like hoping for a payoff later on.

Many people (myself included) enjoy TV shows that have an ongoing story. Ideally we want that story to come to a satisfying end, eventually. It's disappointing when, after watching it for tens or hundreds of hours, the team behind the show delivers a sub-par ending, or no real ending at all. Sure, there are lots of episodic shows out there where each episode can be enjoyed (or not) on its own, and if the show starts…

I wonder how the GoT writers couldn't see that they were blowing it with season 8 (is it even the whole season, or just the last 2 episodes).

Some commenters rationalize that Daenarys was always going to lose her shit, but the way it was handled in "that episode" was very unsatisfactory. I guess the writers wrote themselves into a corner because they had to work with what they've already broadcast, unlike a book author who can go back and rewrite plenty of stuff across the book when they find they need to establish something for the climax...

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by netsharc »

menshiki wrote: post #156
qwertox wrote: post #154

Don't worry, Google will find a way to break it so badly that heavy users will stop using it frequenty. AI translation forced even on those who know the language are just a example of what they fail to understand and don't bother to discuss internally.

YouTube's automatic and forced AI translation has to be the worst feature of this decade.

At least it's optional.. YouTube thinks if you're accessing from country X, you want the video titles in language X. Utter fucking geniuses. I say "thinks", it sometimes does this and sometimes doesn't. And there's no "Leave the fucking titles alone" option anywhere...

Reminds me of IMDb pulling the same genius move of "Hey, here's the title of that movie as it was released in the region we've geolocated you in!"

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by pjc50 »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #111
benbristow wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you simping for the shareholders? I should have the choice of anything I want to watch. The unethical option provides all and is cheaper than a subscription for a single one of those services. Besides, those services often make it difficult to unsubscribe with dark patterns.

And why are you acting like you have a right to unlimited access of all content made, regardless of the economics, for $20 a month at the highest quality of service through one platform? Things cost money, that's the world we live in. You don't have to like it, but it is what it is. The unethical option is actually illegal and, as more people do it, only game theories everyone else into having to pay more. Feel free…

> right to unlimited access of all content made, regardless of the economics, for $20 a month at the highest quality of service through one platform?

Because the only reason we don't have this is a substantial industry devoted to preventing it? Which simultaneously has a terrible rep for exploiting its workers, the pay non-transparency of Netflix, arbitrary cancellation of incomplete series, and the general fiasco that is David Zaslav.

Heck, I'd take "all content made before 2000 at acceptable quality transfers for $20", but the further back you go the more likely it is that the only online supplier of a movie is a pirate.

(Criterion Channel Online is not available in the UK, which is another bugbear: copyright means arbitrary unavailability)

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

justinclift wrote: post #174
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably around when South Park left Netflix, I started pirating again Unrelated, but fun example as South Park is probably the only show on TV that also let people watch the entire show (-latest seasons it seems) for free online! https://www.southparkstudios.com/seasons/south-park Been like that (in many places) for many many years at this point too :)

> let people watch the entire show Isn't that only for people in the US?

I lived in three different countries in my life, and neither of them have been the US, but all of them have apparently had free South Park episodes available to them :)

I don't know if that website works/shows full episodes in the US, currently I'm in a EU country and everything except the last two seasons seems available.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by isaacremuant »

netsharc wrote: post #183
menshiki wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube's automatic and forced AI translation has to be the worst feature of this decade.

At least it's optional.. YouTube thinks if you're accessing from country X, you want the video titles in language X. Utter fucking geniuses. I say "thinks", it sometimes does this and sometimes doesn't. And there's no "Leave the fucking titles alone" option anywhere... Reminds me of IMDb pulling the same genius move of "Hey, here's the title of that movie as it was released in the region we've geolocated you in!"

It's not optional. It auto dubs stuff assuming no one in the world speaks more than one language or would rather listen to original audio with subs

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by EZ-E »

lm28469 wrote: post #169

My youtube experience: - open video - 2 unskippable ads - click somewhere in the video to skip the creator's sponsor section (more ads) - 2 more unskippable ads - video plays, the original audio was automagically replaced by a dogshit 1995 tier "ai" dub - it's not the part I wanted to see, click somewhere else - 2 more unskippable ads At that point I spent 5 minutes watching ads and forgot why I came here...

Youtube is squeezing more and more to push subscribing to premium. Youtube is where "everything" is - they know they can squeeze hard, where else are you going to go?

Ironically it looks more and more like TV with the non stop ads and sponsors.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by world2vec »

lm28469 wrote: post #169

My youtube experience: - open video - 2 unskippable ads - click somewhere in the video to skip the creator's sponsor section (more ads) - 2 more unskippable ads - video plays, the original audio was automagically replaced by a dogshit 1995 tier "ai" dub - it's not the part I wanted to see, click somewhere else - 2 more unskippable ads At that point I spent 5 minutes watching ads and forgot why I came here...

Either pay for their Premium service or use uBlock Origin (Firefox) + SponsorBlock. Otherwise YouTube is unusable.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by bombcar »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #179
benbristow wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many services nowadays. Was fine when it was just Netflix, had mostly everything, no ads, full quality. Nowadays Netflix price has gone up, additional plans for 4K/no-ads, anti-account sharing and less content as content now has gone to Amazon/Disney+/Hulu/Discovery+/Paramount+/Peacock/HBO etc. etc. Even if you subscribed to them all you'd still not have everything. Sailing the seas, you get everything for free o…

> Was fine when it was just Netflix, had mostly everything This was problematic too. Centralisation is never good in the long-term. Surely, we would have learned that from traditional media, AWS outages or autocratic structures. Humanity as so much to learn still

Centralized marketplaces can work, but it’s hard to maintain those (there is one Centralized Internet, not many various internets, for example).

A subscription service that “covers all” like we usually get with music would be quite nice, even if it was only “older” shows after a year or so.

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