Anyone here using https://github.com/vitobotta/hetzner-k3s Or https://github.com/kube-hetzner/terraform-hcloud-kube-hetzne... For a K3S cluster? Would love to hear any experience. Thanks!
We are using hetzner-k3s, super solid and easy to use. I love that it also utilizes the Hetzner Cloud Controllers to utilize the native Hetzner load balancers, volumes, network
Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
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#183This setup is probably also easier to reason about and easier to make secure than the messy garbage pushed by Amazon and other cloud providers.
People see Cloud providers with rose-colored glasses, but even something like RDS requires VPCs, subnets, route tables, security groups, Internet/NAT gateways, lots of IAM roles, and CloudWatch to be usable. And to make it properly secure (meaning: not just sharing the main DB password with the team) you need way more as well, and it's hard to orchestrate, it's not just an option in a CloudFormation script.
Sure securing a server is hard too, but people 1. actually share this info and 2. don't have illusions about it.
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#184I cannot overstate the performance improvement of deploying onto bare metal. We typically see a doubling of performance, as well as extremely predictable baseline performance. This is down to several things: - Latency - having your own local network, rather than sharing some larger datacenter network fabric, gives around of order of magnitude reduced latency - Caches – right-sizing a deployment for the underlying har…
Using the S3 API is like chopping onions, the more you do it, the faster you start crying.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#185I cannot overstate the performance improvement of deploying onto bare metal. We typically see a doubling of performance, as well as extremely predictable baseline performance. This is down to several things: - Latency - having your own local network, rather than sharing some larger datacenter network fabric, gives around of order of magnitude reduced latency - Caches – right-sizing a deployment for the underlying har…
What is old is new again. My employer is so conservative and slow that they are forerunning this Local Cloud Edge Our Basement thing by just not doing anything.
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#186 Low Cost High Cost
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FARM WHOLESALER GROCERY RESTAURANT DOORDASH
BUILD CO-LOCATION HETZNER AWS VERCEL
While it's not a perfect analogy, in principle it holds true.As such, it should come as no surprise that eating at a restaurant every day is going to be way more expensive.
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#187I think you can get much farther with dedicated servers. I run a couple of nodes on Hetzner. The performance you get from a dedicated machine even if it is a 3 year old machine that you can get on server auction is absolutely bonkers and cannot be compared to VMs. The thing is that most of the server hardware is focused towards high core count, low clock speed processors that optimize for I/O rather than compute. It…
I have seen hetzners cloud block storage to be quite slow. It became soon a bottleneck on our timescale databases. Now we're testing on netcup.com's "root servers" which are VPS with dedicated CPU cores and lots of very fast storage.
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#188This is pretty bad still, with colocation you can get the costs down to 1/100th with good deals at datacenters especially ones that are struggling to attract customers. Most of your bill is power so if you rack efficiency optimized servers you can have a lot of compute for very cheap. In terms of networking many offer no-headache solutions with some kind of transit blend. I recently had to switch away from hetzner du…
But when you are Colocating you have higher upfront costs as you need to acquire hardware and also need to have somebody nearby the datacenter for hardware swaps in case of a failure, no?
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#189Hetzner's ARM servers are the best kept secret in tech. Unbelievably capable and mindbogglingly cheap.
Have you encountered any software that wasn't compatible ?
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#190At my home, I have the PUD fiber Internet with Starlink as the backup WAN. I have two non mission critical servers we were using on AWS for and I set up two old laptops locally to run. Saving $1,000 a month now. I am looking at my $4,000 a month of mission critical servers now.