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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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post #111

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So the upgrades are not delta diffs either?

Even if it’s delta, it cannot patch itself when running on Windows. So it runs the updater, creates a new exec and switches to it after relaunch. Same as Chrome or Firefox.

OS deficiency. And maybe programs shouldn't be allowed to update themselves.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#182
post #157

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Storage doesn't really feel cheap. I'm considering buying a new laptop, and Apple charges $600 per TB. Sure, it's cheaper than it was in the '80s, but wasting a few gigabytes here and a few gigabytes there is quickly enough to at least force you to go from a 500GB drive to a 1TB drive, which costs $300.

That's more of an Apple problem? Storage is under $50/TB.

It's the reality of storage pricing. The general statement "storage is cheap" is incorrect. For some practically relevant purposes, such as Apple laptops, it's $600/TB. For other purposes, it's significantly below $50/TB.

You could say "just don't buy Apple products". And sure, that might be a solution for some. But the question of what laptop to buy is an extremely complicated one, where storage pricing is just one of many, many, many different factors. I personally have landed on Apple laptops, for a whole host of reasons which have nothing to do with storage. That means that if I have to bump my storage from 1TB to 2TB, it directly costs me $600.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#183
post #178

Does the editor have an "absolutely no AI crap" version? Also, it says that it uses WSL, but i do not use it. I use Git bash instead. Is it supported? (I'm asking instead of finding out myself because of the little interest I have in this editor)

You can disable all of the AI features with a single config setting.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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I've been using Zed primarily for months but I just switched back to VSCode for 2 reasons, one of which is kinda my fault and the other it's unclear where the fault is. 1. I deleted a few hours of work because I was late night coding and I decided to rename a file before check-in and delete the old version. Well I renamed it and Right-Click -> Deleted the new version by accident. It turns out Zed has both "Delete" an…

Yeah Windows having Rename and Delete next to each other was always bad design.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#185
post #178

Does the editor have an "absolutely no AI crap" version? Also, it says that it uses WSL, but i do not use it. I use Git bash instead. Is it supported? (I'm asking instead of finding out myself because of the little interest I have in this editor)

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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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How can people justify using editors like this when they are missing basic features? Like what's the benefit?

Zed is pretty awesome on macOS and Linux, but I tried the Windows version tonight and things that work great on the other OSes aren't working on Windows. I've noticed: - Issues with various keybinds not working as expected, e.g. Ctrl+S to save works on my Linux machines but not Windows if Vim Mode is enabled - Issues with LSPs/diagnostics not working on Windows the same way they work on macOS/Linux - The terminal hol…

> setting environment variables in the OS is easy

Windows has a GUI, how can it not be easy. /s

It isn't as easy as on Linux, but you press Windows, type env, click edit Variables then select User vs. System, the you press add. That's not too complicated.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

> I was always under the impresion that Rust apps are pretty lightweight, but that install size is nearing Java levels of binary/dependency bloat.

For what it's worth, the zed executable on Linux weighs 3.2 MB.

EDIT: Sorry, the nix store is too good at hiding things from me. It's actually around 337 MB plus webrtc-sys.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#188

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

A 400mb+ install of bloat will upset many people This needs to be justified asap to help people understand and reconsider installing it.

Will it though? I mean it's a lot for a "text editor", but much less than a classical IDE. And 400M is pretty negligible if you're on Windows, where your OS takes up dozens of GB for no reason.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#190
post #36

I watched the video on the home page and thought it is weird that they spend an inordinate amount of time on frame rate. Who picks an editor based on frame rate? If you want to talk about perf in the context of a text editor show me how big of a file you can load--especially if the file has no line breaks. Emacs has trouble here. If you load a minified js file it slows to a crawl especially if syntax highlighting is…

High frame rates (low frame times, really) are essential to responsiveness which, for those who appreciate it, is going to make much more of a difference day to day than the odd hiccup opening a large file (not that zed does have that issue, I wouldn't know as I haven't tried opening something huge).

It's expected for editors to have non-perceivable latency. It's just text, how hard can it be.
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