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Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

strcat wrote: post #138
riedel wrote: post #86

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The bad thing in general is the dependence on Google policy for all AOSP distros. Joining those programs might long term worsen the situation. IMHO, it could be worth the fight if GrapheneOS could win their (rather legal/lobbying) battle to obtain play integrity certification by following security closely (which is a joke IMHO because EOL phones with not updates for years also get integrity). Google releasing easily…

We have the sources for the patches which is how they get applied the source tree. We have both the regular releases and security preview releases so it's easy to see what was changed since it's a small amount of code: currently 59 security patches for Android 16, similar to the size of typical Android security patches, although 1 was already public elsewhere so we applied to the regular release. > does not even incl…

>> All of those distros suffer from the reliance of Google to release anything, so they in one way or the other they play the game. Particularly Lineage heavily does 'self-censoring' to comply without much benefit IMHO. We really would need e.g. does not even include the keys for providing alternative web views or the ability to switch the location provider. While google has those capabilities, they only support services sending data to their own servers.

> Trusting third parties with this is a privacy and security risk.

Trusting Google with this is a privacy risk.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

timschumi wrote: post #178
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #115

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The requirements are monstrous: 300GB storage, 32GB RAM. My everyday working laptop has a 240GB SSD. I've build the kernel, Firefox, and the heaviest packages which I use from sources with a fraction of those resources. I can't even fathom what the build system is doing in order to require this amount of storage.

> I can't even fathom what the build system is doing in order to require this amount of storage. A large number of 17 year old repositories, prebuilt toolchains, and the fact that you otherwise have every little bit of source code, intermediary results, and output to create a full operating system all in the same place. As for the memory, the very first step (that basically already is the benchmark for the most memor…

Okay, but I'm pretty sure Gentoo can compile an entire OS in way less disk+RAM than that, and I know NetBSD can.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by BlackLotus89 »

okanat wrote: post #130
andrewflnr wrote: post #128

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Ok, less so NFC, but my bank and all the governments I have to deal with have reasonably functional websites. It's clearly possible.

Where are you from? I live in Germany. I use ING and DKB as my banks. Both of the banks require a Play Integrity-checked app as their default 2FA.In the past I used Sparkasse and Commerzbank. They too required a PI-approved app. As an alternative you can order a code generator but for DKB that requires a paid debit-card. ING disables the phone app if you use a code generator. You cannot have multiple 2FA.

You could have chosen the Digipass device (I got mine for free) instead of a smartphone app.

They tried to force me to add my phone number, but when you talk to a Rep you can get out of that too...

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by tsoukase »

The elephant in the room in adopting LOS is the diminishing phone brands that allow custom firmware. If this obstacle is not reversed for usual brands (Samsung, Xiaomi) then you are better off get Ala Huawei which is degoogled by default.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by jMyles »

zbentley wrote: post #29
jMyles wrote: post #17

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At the risk of sounding knee-jerk libertarian (though there are worse ways to sound), it seems to me that top-down, big bloc regulation is a non-trivial piece of what has gotten into this mess. The entrenchment via regulatory capture at the baseband level, with enormous state interplay with TSMC and Qualcomm (both economic and regulatory, both publicly known and classified), makes it impossible for a seriously indepe…

What would baseband usage look like in a deregulated world? I’m skeptical, but the question is honest. Without the (quite corrupt) allotment of frequencies and broadcast radio tech by the FCC and government, I’m having trouble envisioning a future that doesn’t end up back at the bcm/qcm/etc. near-monopoly … just via market collusion rather than state orchestration. Is there a better future there that I’m missing?

Yeah I'm honestly not sure. Systems of regulation (ie, achieving regularity) need to be developed that don't depend on the state.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Post by yyyk »

andrewflnr wrote: post #117
butz wrote: post #116

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Banking, pay and government apps should be a website and work on any device with a web browser.

Lots of them are, in fact. It's not that hard, maybe even easier. What's wrong with the rest of them that require a phone?

Cheque depositing? Fingerprint (etc.) login?
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