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Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#181

I want to be living in the 80s again. The world is an absolute shit show at the moment

The 1980s wasn't great either, depending on where you were you had: AIDS, the Cold War, crack epidemic, war on drugs/mass incarceration, Satanic Panic, Iran-Contra, Tiananmen Square, plane bombings, peak gang violence, MOVE bombings, S&L crisis, sky-high interest rates, a couple deep recessions with high unemployment, Chernobyl, the Iran-Iraq War, widespread homophobia, Ethiopian famine and civil war, etc.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#182

I looked at the pictures, and even with no context, it was obvious that he was pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump with that meme. Ain't no way people looked at the picture, and genuinely thought "Is he threatening to shoot up the school?" . But then again, there are some incredibly stupid people out there. To me, it mostly seems like manufactured outrage. Someone saw him posting edgy memes, got offended, and called…

Without context, it seems like somebody obviously just sharing some tasteless memes, but the context is precisely what makes things not so clear. This is a former police officer (in other words: armed) who was obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist, lived near a Perry High School, and then posts an image that shows Trump saying "We have to get over it." with the subtext being "Donald Trump, on the Perry Hig…

I actually agree with this, because there are a lot of people out there who are unaware of anything outside of the 50x50 mile area they live in.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#183

I want to be living in the 80s again. The world is an absolute shit show at the moment

The 1980s wasn't great either, depending on where you were you had: AIDS, the Cold War, crack epidemic, war on drugs/mass incarceration, Satanic Panic, Iran-Contra, Tiananmen Square, plane bombings, peak gang violence, MOVE bombings, S&L crisis, sky-high interest rates, a couple deep recessions with high unemployment, Chernobyl, the Iran-Iraq War, widespread homophobia, Ethiopian famine and civil war, etc.

Of course it was called GRID instead of AIDS back then.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while the percentage of households with guns has gone down, significantly The civilian gun stock has grown significantly since the 60s [1]. These data, together, seem to imply a large (but declining) number of households with a couple of guns and a few households with a ridiculous number of guns. Of course, the dagger in your argument is that American divorce rates are not extraordinary [2]. Our gun ownership and s…

Surely the more relevant metric is the percentage of households with at least one gun? Guns are durable goods that people don’t dispose of, so of course they accumulate. My father in law has boats, old cars, and guns piling up around his house. But school shootings typically aren’t committed by people rummaging through their grandparents’ basements, right? Similarly, it surely is better to compare the same country ov…

> Surely the more relevant metric is the percentage of households with at least one gun?

Why?

> Similarly, it surely is better to compare the same country over time instead of comparing different countries which differ in many additional respects?

Mass shootings are a distinctly American phenomenon. (One happened today. It probably won't make any front pages [1].) It absolutely makes sense to ask what we're doing wrong relative to other countries.

> If your thesis that the availability of guns causes school shootings is true, you should expect to see school shootings going down in the U.S. as the practical availability of a gun goes down

One would expect to see more school shootings in states with "more permissive firearm laws and higher rates of gun ownership" [2]. One does.

I also challenge the notion that fewer households with more guns makes guns less available to kids. A household with one or two guns is probably keeping track of them in a way one with a new gun every Christmas is not.

82% of school shooters don't grow up in stable homes [3]. Practically all of them are from gun homes. More critically, the prevalence of two-parent households has been going up since the mid-2000s [4]. So have mass shootings.

(Kirk's assassin grew up in a stable home. He used the rifle his family gifted him to do the deed [5].)

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gvgr7w2yko

[2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35449898/

[3] https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/shooters_myt...

[4] https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-resurgence-of-the-two-parent-...

[5] https://people.com/tyler-robinson-received-rifle-as-gift-use...

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#185

I looked at the pictures, and even with no context, it was obvious that he was pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump with that meme. Ain't no way people looked at the picture, and genuinely thought "Is he threatening to shoot up the school?" . But then again, there are some incredibly stupid people out there. To me, it mostly seems like manufactured outrage. Someone saw him posting edgy memes, got offended, and called…

Without context, it seems like somebody obviously just sharing some tasteless memes, but the context is precisely what makes things not so clear. This is a former police officer (in other words: armed) who was obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist, lived near a Perry High School, and then posts an image that shows Trump saying "We have to get over it." with the subtext being "Donald Trump, on the Perry Hig…

Where did you find this context? in particular

>obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your response, and the downvotes I upvoted rayiner’s comment because it’s argued in good faith. (What would be in bad faith would be putting forward a third party’s flawed argument without pointing out the flaws for shits and giggles.)

I certainly believe in the argument so no problem ascribing it to me.

For what it's worth, I don't think the science on this is settled. I think the evidence swings towards too many irresponsible Americans having too many guns. But the single-family bias in school shooters is something I hadn't read about before.

One takeaway from that evidence, however, could be that single-parent homes should have restrictions on how many guns they can own, what kind of guns those can be and how they must be stored. The fact that American single-family kids turn into school shooters, while the rest of the (rich) world's do not, continues to speak to a uniquely American nexus. The most obvious and evidenced one is our prevalence (and loose regulation) of guns.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#187
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a large group of people saying that anyone who doesn't accept a guy from a couple thousand years ago into a primary organ in their chest area, that not only do they deserve to die, they will, and then be damned for eternity. Others openly suggest capital punishment for nonviolent crimes. E.g. narco boaters, repeat offenders, homeless (see: Killmeade), drugs etc. In fact, we have no sanctions on Singapore, a l…

large-scale drug smuggling is absolutely a violent crime.

How?

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#188

I think this is an example of using slow trials as a nonjudicial weapon. The defendant did not break the law and isn't likely to be convicted (at least not on appeal), but they can hold him in jail for months because they got mad at his Facebook post.

That should be where the right to a speedy trial comes into play. If he is held in jail because he isn't released on bail, the best thing to do is repeatedly file motions for the speedy trial.

Bail is set at 2 million. So it’s a strategy

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#189

There is a little bit more context here in a different article where the sheriff explains how the posts were interpreted as a threat https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2025/09/23/tennessee-l...

> There is a little bit more context here in a different article where the sheriff explains how the posts were interpreted as a threat > https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2025/09/23/tennessee-l... There isn’t anything there that wasn’t in the original article.

The Reason article said there was no reason to interpret this as a threat and that it was entirely just political. The article made it seem like the memes were held completely out of context. It mentioned there happens to be a nearby Perry High School just by chance but the nearby Perry High School is the central reason why this was interpreted as a threat. This was posted in a group that was organizing an event at the high school. I could see how someone might construe this as a threat more clearly from the tennessean article if they were being overly cautious. Also the sheriff mentioned the arrest was not done for legal speech content but more for the coincidental possibility this was a threat. Reason didn't elaborate on this.

The Reason article is making this seem like it's entirely political and unreasonable. I don't think an arrest should have been made, that is too far. This seems like an unfortunate coincidence but someone looked at all this and reported it as a threat. The fact Perry High School's name is highly relevant here was not included.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing "conservative" about the fascist movement. It's regressive / reactionary (to use Yarvin's own label).

Self-identified "conservatives" are pushing this wave of censorship and autocracy. You're not helping anyone with those rhetoric tricks.

> Self-identified "conservatives" are pushing this wave of censorship and autocracy

Yes, exactly! They are lying to themselves, and as a group. They're not conserving our society, but rather throwing it away. I'm not doing a rhetorical trick - they are doing a rhetorical trick, and I am calling it out.

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