The more old school alternative is to just buy old CDs and a CD player. Used, you can find this stuff pretty cheap. Abd it's still more physical than NFC cards.
I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
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Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#182I feel something the same but actually feel the CD and records generations missed out on a lot as well, not that music was a formless thing but that it was disembodied, appearing from plastic discs and dumb speakers. With my daughter I'm trying to just have much more music in the house, instruments laying around, singing and teaching her traditional songs and making them up together. I don't really worry about her no…
The next phase of this process is that generations which will experience music telepathically will be extremely nostalgic for music perceived by means of vibrating the air in the living room.
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#183First of all, this is super super cool. I love these cards, and how he's doing this for his son. But it also makes me sad when people write things like: > My 10-year-old doesn't have that. Music just sort of... happens. It's like it's infinite and invisible at the same time, playing from smart speakers, car stereos, my phone. Endless perfectly curated playlists, designed to fade into the background. The default liste…
I don't agree, endless music from faceless artists have made everything weightless and interchangeable, the never ending stream of recommended artists means that clicking next is more exciting than actually listening to something. I remember 15-20 years ago, every album (even digital album) meant something, I remember trading CDs and MP3s with friends and listening to an album (or even a song) over and over again. No…
So... like most artists of any type since forever?
Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#184My jewel cases have not survived contact with my 2 year old, and I've been idly thinking about more robust solutions.
Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#185I really like the idea. I also grew up in a household with tons of physical media to explore. I still have my blue ray collection but it’s mainly sitting in the shelf because I honestly don’t know what else to put there. But I’m wondering reading all the comments from people doing something similar with alternative products etc how they do this legally? I mean I can’t just download stuff from Apple Music and play it…
This article (not mine) explains the Apple Music/Automation approach – https://hicks.design/journal/moo-card-player
Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#186Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#187As someone who grew up in a household in a small village, brought up by parents whose music collection was 99% classical music and who actively fought the influence of modern/US-centric culture, and with limited personal money (a typical album would have been ~1.5 month's pocket money) the current world of Youtube, Spotify, et al is a utopia.
I wish I'd had the problem of infinitely available music. :)
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#188Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like you're describing some strange alternate universe. I genuinely don't understand what you're talking about. Faceless artists? Artists have dedicated followings with fanbases where they interact more than ever before. Weightless and interchangeable? Artist's personalities are more distinct and individual than ever. You think people don't listen to albums anymore? That they're "clicking next" rather than lis…
> Faceless artists? Artists have dedicated followings with fanbases where they interact more than ever before. Not so much these days. Especially on streaming platforms where countless tracks that get pushed on listeners are recorded by anonymous session musicians whose works are sometimes put out under an assigned name for that singe track, then they get assigned a new name for the next track they put out. Even wors…
But that's not representative. Regular people who like regular real-life artists continue to listen to them, the same as they always have.
And I don't know anybody who outsources their music tastes entirely to e.g. Spotify. Like, you have to actually pick a playlist or something. You have to make some choice. And like I said, people have been "just taking whatever comes next over their speakers" by listening to the radio for many, many decades.
You're commenting as if something has changed for the worse in the past 15-20 years. It hasn't. It's only gotten better in terms of real music. And if you don't like the AI slop, don't listen to it.
Re: I built physical album cards with NFC tags to teach my son music discovery
#190First of all, this is super super cool. I love these cards, and how he's doing this for his son. But it also makes me sad when people write things like: > My 10-year-old doesn't have that. Music just sort of... happens. It's like it's infinite and invisible at the same time, playing from smart speakers, car stereos, my phone. Endless perfectly curated playlists, designed to fade into the background. The default liste…
Children today can be as conscious music listeners as we, who collected and sought out music of our own in our youth in the 80' and 90'. Or as unfastidious as those listening to top chart hits exclusively (including both Mike Oldfield and Milli Vanilli, whichever is in the top) in our childhood.
Two, possibly related anocdote.
My goddaughter is 12. She is in a revolting phase where difficult to find way to her heart. But we are on the same wavelength and can engage in hours and hours of excited conversation (we are 40 years apart btw.) about music beacuse she listens to those I listened when I was in her age or more. "Today's music sucks", she argues, and we share playlists. Actually I am able to show her those do not suck today but rarely found because you have to broese similar atrists of a similar artist from somthing you found by accident as a background music of a movie. These kind of discovery through huge music databases is great! About the same good as being lost in a huge vinyl/cd shop. You cannot touch, but you can listen!
Another is just interesting, and a reflection to the "todays music suck" kind of oversimplification. But also to how young people can discover their own music. Once in Germany waiting for a tram a loud group of graduating high school student like figures came by shouting the refrain of '99 Luftbalons' while it was playing from an uncomfortably loud boombox. I could not stop smiling thinking of them. : )