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Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by piltdownman »

ACCount37 wrote: post #166
piltdownman wrote: post #154

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So why on earth did ARM sue to stop their release and force a clean-sheet redesign? Other than SoftBank being Softbank. //ARM’s CEO wrote in a contemporaneous internal message that the Nuvia ALA “had left a route to blow a hole in [ARM’s] revenue plan” because “Qualcomm already ha[d] a v9 architecture license” under its own ALA. That observation led him to vent that “I’m struggling not to be pissed that we set up a r…

Good luck getting anywhere close to Nintendo Switch sales with anything that's not Nintendo Switch. Valve managing to land Steam Deck within 2 orders of magnitude from that? That was already an unlikely feat.

One of the main use-cases of the Steam Deck? Wii-U and Switch emulation!

Valve managing to land Steam Deck within 2 orders of magnitude on their first handheld hardware launch, without some of the largest exclusive gaming IP in the world, selling direct to consumer... represent salient arguments for its ability to compete at a far greater extent when on more equal terms.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by CamperBob2 »

murillians wrote: post #5

I only feel dread when I see a Qualcomm story on HN anymore.

You should feel dread. They're a pretty awful company... one of those outfits that seems to employ more lawyers than engineers. Basically the Oracle of chips.

I can't begin to guess what motivated them to engage in an intentional culture clash of this magnitude.

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Post by GenerocUsername »

dangoodmanUT wrote: post #169
phoehne wrote: post #55

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Don't look at just the specs. You also need to look at the board design and programming environment. I've used the ESP32 native tools and they are a lot more complex than Arduino. But I'm an embedded firmware developer, so it's kind of what I expect. But I used an Arduino, with 5V tolerant outputs, to light up Halloween costumes for years. I do it in 1 page of code that's I write in their IDE. I don't have to set up…

Page of code?

About 50 lines... Give or take

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Post by silvanocerza »

b00ty4breakfast wrote: post #69

call me cynical but I can't imagine this ending very well. Even if qualcomm does nothing to alter the operations at Arduino, what happens if they go belly-up in a decade?

Arduino wasn't in the best shape some months ago to be fair, quite some people took offers to lower their working hours with a lower salary too.

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Post by xphos »

webdevver wrote: post #10
murillians wrote: post #5

I only feel dread when I see a Qualcomm story on HN anymore.

genuinely, what is the survival story for qualcomm entering the next decade? - completely missed out on AI - phones become commodity, push for complete vertical integration from apple, google - squeezed by chinese soc vendors from 'below' (mediatek, unisoc) they're cooked, right? there's no way out, surely.

I think the AI bit is overblown. Why does every large company have to do everything in technology, AI is horribly over valued in the market right now. The other issues are much more important as those are threats to Qcom's current profit method mostly MediaTek squeezing the lower tier market. It's unclear if Qcoms going to be able to dominate upper tier where they own like 60% of market share if they don't also compete at lower tier where MediaTek has been very successful

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Post by lesser-shadow »

andoando wrote: post #171
phoehne wrote: post #55

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Don't look at just the specs. You also need to look at the board design and programming environment. I've used the ESP32 native tools and they are a lot more complex than Arduino. But I'm an embedded firmware developer, so it's kind of what I expect. But I used an Arduino, with 5V tolerant outputs, to light up Halloween costumes for years. I do it in 1 page of code that's I write in their IDE. I don't have to set up…

What's hard about programming an ESP32? I plug the USB in and its the same as an Arudino, can even use Arduino IDE, but I prefer VS Code with the PlatformIo extension. You can even use the Arduino Library (#import And a ESP32C board with wifi/bluetooth is like $8 https://www.amazon.com/Seeed-Studio-XIAO-ESP32C3-Microcontro... (and thats from amazon, on alibaba its like couple bucks if that) As a side note, you can po…

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Post by Evidlo »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #107
s1gsegv wrote: post #90

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For what it’s worth, the original ESP32 is actually 5V tolerant, semi-officially acknowledged by Espressif. Good enough for hobby projects, anyway

I'm surprised cheap level shifters with the same pin pitch as various dev boards aren't common.

There's DIP-packaged level shifters that are 0.1"

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Post by cosmicgadget »

ACCount37 wrote: post #76
xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #71

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I've been out of the hardware game a minute but Qualcomm was a great partner for helping you ship products. Everything about them sucks, but they will actually send engineers to your office. They always took bug reports seriously and pretty much always delivered patches. Also they always had ample samples, both in terms of dev boards and software. I know of several products that basically shipped the sample code with…

I heard that Qualcomm can be decent to work with - if you are in a company the size of Qualcomm, or can dangle "500000 units to ship" in front of them like a carrot. But "decent" is Qualcomm at its absolute best. And Qualcomm at its worst? I'd rather chew down broken glass than work with Qualcomm.

At least they're up front about it? When I think of a vendor I think of sales taking your money and then being ghosted by support staff.

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Post by cuttothechase »

The title says - "Qualcomm to Acquire Arduino—Accelerating Developers’ Access to its Leading Edge Computing and AI"

Didn't have it on my bingo card that running AI on a microcontroller is what people are salivating for!

Not sure if the strategy is to cram AI into every little shoe box out there and keeping fingers crossed for the stock price to trend upwards!?

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