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AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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Is there any real reason AMDs market cap can't be close to what Nvidia's is? Or like even half of what Nvidia's is?

My uneducated one word answer: CUDA.

Could quickly change if open alternatives were suddenly more popular or with stuff like ZLUDA

https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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they're just printing money for each other at this point

Some refer to it as "circular financing". It's "seller financing" but to a degree we've never seen before in an industry (which create these "circular" effects). There's a good HN thread from 2-days ago on this subject (200+ comments). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45473033

Nvidia owns a piece of OAI, and now Nvidia would own a piece of AMD. I am just waiting for Samsung type of circular ownership structures here in the US.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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> I also don't get why there commiting so much to the future, are they sure of the quality of the products and their demand that much? It's one big game of musical chairs, and everyone can hear the phonograph slowing down. OpenAI is making these desperation plays because they've ran out of hype. GPT-5 "bombed", the wider public doesn't believe AI is going to keep getting exponentially better anymore. They're out of o…

On the flip side of it (and where most institutional investors are mentally) is that if OpenAI is to ever achieve AGI, it must invest nearly a trillion dollars towards that effort. We all know LLMs have their limitations, but next phase of AI growth is going to come from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, maybe even Microsoft, and not some stealth startup. E.g., Only Big Tech can get us to AGI due to sheer massive amounts of…

> And the trick appears to be working since the stock is up 30% today, meaning it has paid for itself and then some.

It's a bubble. The tricks keep working until they suddenly don't, and then all the prior tricks unwind themselves.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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post #9

they're just printing money for each other at this point

Some refer to it as "circular financing". It's "seller financing" but to a degree we've never seen before in an industry (which create these "circular" effects). There's a good HN thread from 2-days ago on this subject (200+ comments). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45473033

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Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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they're just printing money for each other at this point

The good part is that the next financial crisis when OpenAI sinks probably won’t be a systemic one, it will definitely drag others down and the stock market will readjust, but hopefully the US economy will remain afloat

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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This industry is the most intense game of musical chairs I've seen in a long time.

And you have that right. And now imagine what will happen when OpenAI makes deals with Nvidia and AMD. Do you think Hyperscalers will just watch? I expect Musk to make a $1 trillion deal soon. I guess, that's why he wants to get the $1 trillion from Tesla. And do you think Meta, Amazon, Microsoft and Google will stand by while Altman and Musk are buying future supply from Nvidia and AMD? I love that. As an investor i…

The fact you are even writing this usually means you should sell immediately.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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I'm very ignorant, will AMD shares get diluted? or how is it money printing?

AMD issues new shares and gets a penny (read: effectively zero) back for them. ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL this means everyone holding AMD has 10% of their equity/value taken away and handed to OpenAI. But all else is not equal. OpenAI only gets the shares if they buy AMD GPUs. The intent is that this offsets the dilution by making AMD overall more valuable. (This is why the stock price jumped on the announcement) It's a GP…

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