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Re: BYD builds fastest car

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gamblor956 wrote: post #129
ryandrake wrote: post #82

Ever since I rode in a BYD in China I've thought it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. It just really felt complete, put together and polished in a way that I haven't seen in a "normie" U.S. car in a long time. Too bad our country uses high tariffs and regulatory barriers to protect its dinosaur companies.

Contrasting opinion: BYD made electric busses for US transit agencies. They were the worst buses that I have ever ridden. Today, no U.S. transit agency still uses BYD busses, because none of them managed a service live longer than about a year. BYD vehicles seem really nice for the first few hours, until you start discovering all the corners they cut to make their price point.

> Today, no U.S. transit agency still uses BYD busses, because none of them managed a service live longer than about a year.

Is that true today? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-26/us-cities... (discussion in HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45386578) gives another reason: “Federal Transit Administration rules that prohibit using federal dollars to purchase buses made by Chinese companies”

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Post by slaw »

michaelhoney wrote: post #161
ryandrake wrote: post #82

Ever since I rode in a BYD in China I've thought it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. It just really felt complete, put together and polished in a way that I haven't seen in a "normie" U.S. car in a long time. Too bad our country uses high tariffs and regulatory barriers to protect its dinosaur companies.

BYD is now the 6th most popular brand in Australia, up 176% YoY.

BYD has only 4.9% of car sales market. Why BEVs are so unpopular in Australia, only 9.31% of sales?

https://www.fcai.com.au/new-brands-surge-in-strong-august-sa...

Re: BYD builds fastest car

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Post by attentive »

contrarian1234 wrote: post #164
ggm wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't rely on Chinese companies to make the tanks and rockets you intend aiming at China. Car manufacturers serve many purposes. Aside from keeping the UAW membership onside, they are a strategic buttress for an emerging future war risk. Australia maintained subsidies to Ford and GM for onshore production precisely because of this. And they stopped when a strategic realignment made successive governments decide t…

War with China.. ya'll are nuts. The American zeitgeist is completely poisoned and insane. Listening to this stuff from the outside is kind of horrifying. War with a nuclear armed country ends with a nuclear winter for the whole planet. There is no preparing for war with China unless you want everyone dead (which I'm starting to suspect a lot of people are okay with) This seems so anachronistic.... When was the last…

Best way to find yourself in war is not prepare for one. As shown time and again. Also, persuading your enemies not to prepare for war is a part of the war effort.

> so anachronistic

tell that to ruzzia

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

DanielVZ wrote: post #94
ryandrake wrote: post #82

Ever since I rode in a BYD in China I've thought it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. It just really felt complete, put together and polished in a way that I haven't seen in a "normie" U.S. car in a long time. Too bad our country uses high tariffs and regulatory barriers to protect its dinosaur companies.

Ever since I ride them constantly in Chilean Ubers I wish other EVs were more prevalent because how the aluminum bends and creaks sometimes when I sit on the backseat doesn’t make me feel any safe (I weight 90kg).

I don’t if the Chilean models are built to the same standards (they should) but BYD is approved in both the US and the EU. Structural integrity is definitely not a problem.

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

gkanai wrote: post #112
ryandrake wrote: post #82

Ever since I rode in a BYD in China I've thought it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. It just really felt complete, put together and polished in a way that I haven't seen in a "normie" U.S. car in a long time. Too bad our country uses high tariffs and regulatory barriers to protect its dinosaur companies.

> it would be great to be able to get one in the USA. Allowing in Chinese EVs into markets where there are important domestic auto manufacturers will be very bad for those domestic manufacturers. (US, Germany, France, S.Korea, Japan, etc.) Outside of Tesla, none have EV brands competitive with the Chinese firms and if customers in those non China markets migrate to Chinese brands en masse, it would be tremendous disr…

> It is important that the US have strong auto companies. Same is true for Germany, France, Japan, S. Korea, etc.

I agree in principle but I can’t fail to notice what is to me the obvious parallel with the subprime crisis.

We, as the general public via the state, are once again saving companies which badly failed according to the market due to their shortsightedness and inability to properly invest. It shows that the current system, which its proponents - generally profiting tremendously from it - like to frame as meritocratic, is a charade. It exists as long as the same wins and suddenly stops to apply when they don’t.

It’s hard for me to support intervention to save some companies while not doing anything to curb the rising inequalities and the overall lack of contribution of the richest. I think people are not blind to that and it partially explains while extreme political parties are on the rise.

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Post by stavros »

seydor wrote: post #41
chakintosh wrote: post #25

It seems to me like building the fastest EV has nowhere near the complexity of building the fastest ICE car. Way too many moving parts and fine tuning required to get an engine to 440Kmh (Chiron SS) than an EV with 4 big motors.

are we bound to see a huge increase in speed limits as EVs start to dominate?

The reason we have speed limits isn't because cars can't go any faster, but because they can.

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

petesergeant wrote: post #142
gyomu wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is important that the US have strong auto companies. Same is true for Germany, France, Japan, S. Korea, etc. It is. But the reality is that those companies are complacent fossils who have lost all their vigor, and only threat of extinction would force them to innovate. Which they’re not under because legislators agree with you (in no small part thanks to their lobbyists). Like many things, we’ll realize the exte…

The right way to do that is to lower the tax rate on these foreign models a little bit; enough to spur competition, not enough to crash local manufacturing capacity.

For EV, the situation is even more dire.

Western countries simply don’t have the supply chain required to compete with China. China is often by far the best supplier for a lot of components and the sole supplier able to provide some raw materials in large quantities.

Honestly, we are not far from reaching a point where using the old Chinese strategy might be our best bet: mandatory JVs with local companies if the Chinese companies want to access our markets.

Re: BYD builds fastest car

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Post by stavros »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #60
darth_avocado wrote: post #6

But will it have full self driving by the end of the year?

BYD made their Autonomous Driving Features free (1). But they don't make false claims about them. (1) https://insidechinaauto.com/2025/02/11/byd-rolls-out-autonom... https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/11/cars/china-byd-smart-driv...

That's only to cars with lidar, right? My Seal isn't getting that.

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Post by contrarian1234 »

attentive wrote: post #183
contrarian1234 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

War with China.. ya'll are nuts. The American zeitgeist is completely poisoned and insane. Listening to this stuff from the outside is kind of horrifying. War with a nuclear armed country ends with a nuclear winter for the whole planet. There is no preparing for war with China unless you want everyone dead (which I'm starting to suspect a lot of people are okay with) This seems so anachronistic.... When was the last…

Best way to find yourself in war is not prepare for one. As shown time and again. Also, persuading your enemies not to prepare for war is a part of the war effort. > so anachronistic tell that to ruzzia

> As shown time and again

what a load of warmongering bs.. I literally can't think of a single example. Korea, Vietnam, France, Britain, Japan, Germany every country involved in a war in the past ~100 years had prepared for it. Maybe maybe Iraq under Saddam Hussein didn't properly prepare? Though they were highly militarized. On the contrary, the more you prepare and get people frothing at the mouth the more likely it's gunna happen.

Thank god none had been between two nuclear powers so far

> tell that to ruzzia

They had a bunch of tanks and seemingly lost huge amounts of them. They seem to be a prime example of tanks not working in the modern context

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Post by contrarian1234 »

Someone wrote: post #179
contrarian1234 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they still a factor? I thought they quickly were put out of the picture once drone warfare was ironed out. Haven't heard of tanks in Ukraine for the past couple of years

This is from last month: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/09/08/world/europe/... It describes how tanks were modified to protect, first, against attacks from the top, and then, from drone attacks from all sides. They claim “But they remain important, especially for trying to take and hold territory. With their heavy firepower, they will continue to have a role in attacking, defending and supporting the foot s…

super interesting! thanks
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