Digital ID – The New Chains of Capitalist Surveillance

Post by microtonal » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 1:00 PM UTC

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We don't they ask some European partners? Some have great ID systems. In The Netherlands we have DigiD, which was developed by a government organization and works very well. IIRC Estonia als has a digital identity system that works well.

Because the UK gov doesn't want a system like theirs. You don't need to keep Europsplaining to Brits. We aren't all idiots. We know you have ID cards etc and we know about Estonia. Also if we reject one your ideas, it's not always because we misunderstood it - we can understand it AND think it's a bad idea. I know that often hurts the egos of Germans, the French and the Dutch ;(! It's funny because it's often Europea…

Post by agedclock » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 1:40 PM UTC

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I don't consider a nurse or a pharmacist, or a pub landlord, or someone that own a Limited Company (anyone can setup a LTD) as middle class. Also what is wrong with being middle-class?

Exactly. They're middle class sounding enough (sufficiently middle class). That's what's funny And nobody said there anything wrong with being middle class.

Post by agedclock » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 1:59 PM UTC

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> I watched a video just yesterday from someone (middle class) who explained that, by not having a passport, it took him weeks to get the necessary documentation together to prove his right to work in the UK. As a UK citizen. This is an issues with the employer not following the checklist, which I posted in my first response to you.. That is not the fault of the legislation. The checklist is easy to understand and st…

> This is an issues with the employer not following the checklist, which I posted in my first response to you And yet you don't seem to have an answer to "what happens when they don't follow it?" > You original claim was that it was "excessive" Take the full context: > are explicitly because there’s no single proof of your right to work in the UK. > scenarios that you presented are either unrealistic Except they happ…

Post by michaelt » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 2:59 PM UTC

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Here in the UK, the government wants: * ID checks for social media (to protect children) * A digital ID card, allowing ID check records to be provably linked to the original ID document (to prevent illegal working) * The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media And even if you trust the current government, there are very real fears the next government will be Trump-ad…

> The police arresting people for posting unfashionable takes on human sexuality to social media When you look into these cases, they always turn out to be "a sustained campaign of harassment and abuse against one or more named individuals". It took years for even Glinner to finally cross that line and get his collar felt.

Post by scott_w » Fri, Oct 03, 2025, 3:32 PM UTC

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> This is an issues with the employer not following the checklist, which I posted in my first response to you And yet you don't seem to have an answer to "what happens when they don't follow it?" > You original claim was that it was "excessive" Take the full context: > are explicitly because there’s no single proof of your right to work in the UK. > scenarios that you presented are either unrealistic Except they happ…

> Because you've had 4 opportunities to answer my basic question and can't? No. It is because you've been rude several times to me without cause, you don't seem to actually read anything I say and therefore I no longer wish to talk to you.