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#18317 years on from the App Store we're still trying to get people to wrap their heads around just using websites. And to think probably all of the users of the app are finding out about it via a LINK in a message or social post.
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#184FWIW, everyone who claims that Apple fundamentally needs the centralized ability to control apps on their platforms "for everyone's safety" -- despite how that obviously and repeatedly makes them become patsies for governments all over the world to enforce their censorship regimes -- are complicit in this stuff (in addition, of course, to the people who build it at Apple...).
I think that Apple is a company that has to obey the rule of law. Maybe the problem here isn’t Apple but the rules they are being forced to abide by?
Rule of law? Is that like the token of appreciation Tim Cook presented?
There are laws. Rule of law is a slippery slope.
There is no law or precedent set that would concern Apple with these apps. Apple is bending the knee. The exact same way they do with China.
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#185I don't want to fall into the fallacy of implying that this is somehow justified because of something "the left" did a few years ago but I would like to highlight the hypocrisy of how many people were totally okay with this sort of executive censorship when Biden was in charge. > "We reached out to Apple today demanding they remove the ICEBlock app from their App Store — and Apple did so," Bondi said in a statement t…
Absolutely. The Biden administration was censoring posts (even memes) on Meta platforms during COVID, according to Zuckerberg.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
The wrongdoing is supporting this company's dominance, which enables this level of censorship.
You’re still not shaming me.
Bud Tribble was shaming Apple cronies in 1981 when he put "reality distortion effect" in circulation. You can feel however you want, but everyone can see the truth for what it is. Been that way for a while now.
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> There's nothing stopping ICE from raiding where you live and destroying your shit. This isn't specific to ICE, and sovereign immunity especially around law enforcement is a topic that has been contested for a while. Every now and then there's a story that pops up of some innocent's house being destroyed due to a clerical error leading the local SWAT team to look for drugs at the wrong address.
> This isn't specific to ICE
It absolutely is specific to ICE when they get to do it to 125 apartment units at once by taking everybody in an entire building, regardless of immigration status, and detaining them for hours, then leaving them with smashed doors and broken possessions.
But, oh, it's "been contested for a while", so let's definitely downplay it.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not sure who you’re expecting to convert. Most people- thinking of people like my parents- think any app that hinders police must be a bad thing. The idea that something like ICEBlock is benevolent and doesn’t make the user a criminal by association just doesn’t register.
Surely an app designed to help circumvent the law is a bad thing, even if it doesn't make one legally a criminal merely by association?
> Surely an app designed to help circumvent the law is a bad thing, even if it doesn't make one legally a criminal merely by association?
Much like Miranda rights. Surely outright informing people in custody they have the right to remain silent is a bad thing, right? Actually, thinking about it now, there's a whole lot of things people have the right to do that make enforcing the law way harder than it needs to be.
Or maybe it's more important to maintain your rights as a human being and citizen, especially in the face of an overreaching executive branch willing to justify anything in order to overreach a little more.