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Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
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Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are already cheap, domestic robots for cleaning dishes, cleaning the floor, cleaning clothes, making coffee, heating and cooling food, turning screws, drilling holes and so on. All those robots represent a greater than 90 percent (and sometimes a greater than 99 percent) savings in time relative to doing the same tasks manually. You still have to move the objects they operate on around within your house but tha…
As someone who played the roomba game quite a bit - you transfer the problem of vacuuming to the problem of very frequent robot cleaning. I've saved more time switching to a high powered central vac than I ever did with constantly cleaning the robot because I had the audacity to own a fluffy dog. Also people claiming cleaning isn't "creative" or "fun". Steam has a whole genre of games simulating cleaning stuff becaus…
> Also people claiming cleaning isn't "creative" or "fun". Steam has a whole genre of games simulating cleaning stuff because the act of cleaning is extremely fun and creative to a lot of people: https://store.steampowered.com/app/246900/Viscera_Cleanup_De... being a great example
Someone making a game about an activity doesn't mean that the activity is fun or desirable in real life at all.
I mean yes there are people that find comfort in cleaning but they are not the target audience of cleaning simulators at all.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#183To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is
* Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers
* Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing
But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#184To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
Though it might be bad news for the companies that got big by saying they'd be able to make infinite money selling fighter-jets to all the children of the world.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#185To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
> “A good tool in the hands of a competent person is a powerful combination,” says Daniel Stenberg.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#186To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
> * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing
I disagree.
I'm making a board game of 6 colors of hexes, and I wanted to be able to easily edit the board. The first time around, I used a screenshot of a bunch of hexagons and used paint to color them (tedious, ugly, not transparent, poor quality). This time, I asked ChatGPT to make an SVG of the board and then make a JS script so that clicking on a hex could cycle through the colors. Easier, way higher quality, adjustable size, clean, transparent.
It would've taken me hours to learn and set that up for myself, but ChatGPT did it in 10min with some back and forth. I've made one SVG in my life before this, and never written any DOM-based JS scripts.
Yes, it's a toy example, but you don't have to knwo what you're doing to get useful things from AI.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#187To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
The metaphor is more apt if you change fighter jets to road vehicles, which are driven by most of the population and whose incompetent use of which can very much affect you.
Imagine what your doctors will be like two generations down the road.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#188To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
> * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing I disagree. I'm making a board game of 6 colors of hexes, and I wanted to be able to easily edit the board. The first time around, I used a screenshot of a bunch of hexagons and used paint to color them (tedious, ugly, not transparent, poor quality). This time, I asked ChatGPT to make an SVG of the board and then make a JS script so that clicking on a…
I agree AI is not "utterly useless", but its usefulness is extremely limited. If it writes all of the code for you, it tends to get into unmaintainable states very quickly, requiring manual review or guidance to overcome.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#189To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
> Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers
> Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing
> the same way that a fighter jet is not useless
AI is currently like a bicycle, while we were all running hills before.
There's a skill barrier and getting less complicated each week.
The marketing goal is to say "Push the pedal and it goes!" like it was a car on a highway, but it is a bicycle, you have to keep pedaling.
The effect on the skilled-in-something-else folks is where this is making a difference.
If you were thinking of running, the goal was to strengthen your tendons to handle the pavement. And a 2hr marathon pace is almost impossible to do.
Like a bicycle makes a Because the bicycle moves the problem from unsprung weights and energy recovery into a VO2 max problem, also into a novel aerodynamics problem.
And if you need to walk a rock garden, now you need to lug the bike too with you. It is not without its costs.
This AI thing is a bicycle for the mind, but a lot of people go only downhill and with no brakes.
Re: Potential issues in curl found using AI assisted tools
#190To anyone who thinks about our current situation for than a few minutes, AI is * Clearly useful to people who are already competent developers and security researchers * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing But the latter group's incompetency does not make AI useless in the same way that a fighter jet is not useless because a toddler cannot pilot it.
> * Utterly useless to people who have no clue what they're doing I disagree. I'm making a board game of 6 colors of hexes, and I wanted to be able to easily edit the board. The first time around, I used a screenshot of a bunch of hexagons and used paint to color them (tedious, ugly, not transparent, poor quality). This time, I asked ChatGPT to make an SVG of the board and then make a JS script so that clicking on a…
Yeah you clearly don't have "no clue" of what you're doing in this example though.
You're someone who knows the difference between a PNG and an SVG, knows enough Javascript to know that "DOM-based" JS is a thing, and has presumably previously worked in software/IT.
You're smart enough to know things, and you're also smart enough to know there's a lot that you don't know.
That's a far cry from the way a lot of laypeople, college kids, and fully nontechnical people try to use LLMs.