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Re: Sora 2

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Post by bbor »

ascorbic wrote: post #164

This is super cool and fun and will almost certainly be really bad for society in loads of different ways. From the descriptions of all the guardrails they're needing to put in it seems like they know it too.

Glad to see someone is looking out for a forest, here. A diverse host of excuses have cropped up to explain away the anxiety AGI brings, and I totally understand why. Yet again, today we stare into the abyss.

  Sora 2 represents significant progress towards [AGI]. In keeping with OpenAI’s mission, it is important that humanity benefits from these models as they are developed.
This seems like a good time to remind ourselves of the original OpenAI charter: https://web.archive.org/web/20230714043611/https://openai.co...

I wonder how exactly they reconcile the quote above with "We are concerned about late-stage AGI development becoming a competitive race without time for adequate safety precautions"...

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Post by beefnugs »

gretch wrote: post #115
m3kw9 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No doubt they can create Hollywood quality clips if the tools are good enough to keep objects consistent, example, coming back to the same scene with same decor and also emotional consistency in actors

> keep objects consistent I think this is not nearly as important as most people think it is. In hollywood movies, everyone already knows about "continuity errors" - like when the water level of a glass goes up over time due to shots being spliced together. Sometimes shots with continuity errors are explicitly chosen by the editor because it had the most emotional resonance for the scene. These types of things rarely…

No way man, this is why i loved Mr Robot, they actually payed a real expert and worked story around realism and not just made up gobbleygook that shuts my brain off entirely to its nonsense

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Post by jstummbillig »

dragonwriter wrote: post #171

“With Sora 2, we are jumping straight to what we think may be the GPT‑3.5 moment for video.” I think feeling like you need to use that in marketing copy is a pretty good clue in itself both that its not, and that you don’t believe it is so much as desperately wish it would be.

I am looking at the videos and really had a feeling that it looks right (minus a lot of obvious fuck ups still) where previously something felt fundamentally wrong with ai videos. It feels somewhat important, in so far you consider ai generated videos important.

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Post by ronsor »

haolez wrote: post #168

One use that occurred to me is that fans will be able to "fix" some movies that dropped the ball. For example, I saw a lot of people criticizing "Wish" (2023, Disney) for being a good movie in the first half, and totally dropping the ball in the last half. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm wondering if fans will be able to evolve the source material in the future to get the best possible version of it. Maybe we will eve…

> (I'm ignoring copyright aspects, of course, because those are too boring :D)

You must understand that infinite copyright is the author's right, and AI companies must be sued for 50 trillion dollars.

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Post by bbor »

ileonichwiesz wrote: post #136
gretch wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> keep objects consistent I think this is not nearly as important as most people think it is. In hollywood movies, everyone already knows about "continuity errors" - like when the water level of a glass goes up over time due to shots being spliced together. Sometimes shots with continuity errors are explicitly chosen by the editor because it had the most emotional resonance for the scene. These types of things rarely…

Water level in a glass changing between shots is one thing, the protagonist’s face and clothes changing is another.

Well put. Honestly the actor part is mostly solved by now, the tricky part is depicting any kind of believable, persistent space across different shots. Based off of amateur outputs from places like https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/, at least!

This release is clearly capable of generating mind-blowingly realistic short clips, but I don't see any evidence that longer, multi-shot videos can be automated yet. With a professional's time and existing editing techniques, however...

Re: Sora 2

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Post by martin-t »

kossTKR wrote: post #98
greyk47 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of the example prompts is literally: Prompt: in the style of a studio ghibli anime, a boy and his dog run up a grassy scenic mountain with gorgeous clouds, overlooking a village in the distant background

Wow that is dark, after Ghiblis staunch stance on AI. These companies and their shareholders really are complete scum in my eyes, just like AI in miltech. Not because the tech isn't super interesting but because they steal years of hard work and pain from actual artists with zero compensation - and then they brag about it in the most horrible way possible, with zero empathy. Then comes losing the little humanity left…

Power creates more power, money creates more money.

Communism is tossing the frog into boiling water (tens millions of dead), capitalism is boiling it slowly (poor people in first world countries might not afford a dentist but they're not starving yet).

We need a system that rewards work - human time and competence.

There are really only 2 resources in the world - natural resources and human time. Everything else is built on top of those. And the people providing their time should be rewarded, not those who are in positions of power which allow them to extract value while not providing anything in return.

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Post by darkwater »

Last famous words:

> A lot of problems with other apps stem from the monetization model incentivizing decisions that are at odds with user wellbeing. Transparently, our only current plan is to eventually give users the option to pay some amount to generate an extra video if there’s too much demand relative to available compute. As the app evolves, we will openly communicate any changes in our approach here, while continuing to keep user wellbeing as our main goal.

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Post by deng »

rendleflag wrote: post #172
deng wrote: post #159

As usual: impressive until you look close. Just freeze the frame and you see all the typical slop errors: pretty much any kind of writing is a garbled mess (look at the camera in the beginning). The horn of the unicorn sits on the bridle. The buttons on Sam's circus uniform hover in the air. There are candleholders with somehow candles inside as well as on top. The miniature instruments often make no sense. The condu…

Is your complaint that it has errors? I mean look at what it can do. This is a freaking computer generating things from scratch based on a prompt. Two years ago, technology like this was so much worse and could only generate basic images and videos. Now it can generate visuals all from the text someone puts in. Anyone, literally anyone, can use it (eventually) to generate incredible scenes. Imagine the person who com…

> Is your complaint that it has errors?

Well, yes? There's a reason why everything that was produced with these tools so far is garbage: because no one actually caring about their art would accept these things. Art is a deliberate thing, it takes effort. These tools are fine for company training videos and TikToks. Of course a few years ago this was science fiction. They are immensely impressive from a technical perspective. Two things can be true.

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Post by asdev »

thorum wrote: post #57
pton_xd wrote: post #18

Someone remind me the benefits of mass produced fake videos again?

People are doing cool things with it. Here’s one example: https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamrelicc Before AI, each video on this channel would have taken a large team with a Hollywood budget to create. In a few more years, one person may be able to turn their creative vision into a full-length movie.

I speak for everyone when I say we don't need these videos at all and would be better off without them
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