Largest Mass Resignation in US History as 100k Federal Workers Quit

Post by bigfudge » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

philipallstar wrote: post #93

bigfudge wrote: post #58

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I don't think Facism is a meaningless concept, or the use of it to describe Trump/MAGA is empty. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism --- In his 1995 essay "Ur-Fascism", cultural theorist Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[17] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fasc…

> From a European perspective, it's really hard not to see much/all of this resonating in MAGA USA. That might be partly because there've been 10 years of everything being called fascism, rather than any genuine thought that selects fascism out of a group of alternatives.

This is so lazy. I literally posted a list of things that typify facism in an article from 30 years ago.

In case it’s not clear: Trump looks like a racist and a facist to many Europeans. He’s stoking division for policitical ends, extending and normalising the use of the army under laughably thin pretext. What is shocking is how little Americans see to notice or care. But given the state of your media, perhaps that’s to be expected?

Post by pfannkuchen » Mon, Oct 06, 2025, 11:49 PM UTC

heavyset_go wrote: post #180

pfannkuchen wrote: post #177

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So in your comparison, on the one hand are laws that are shared by literally every nation (having and maintaining a border), and on the other hand is a historical edge case where citizenship was deleted. I think it’s pretty easy to achieve consistency by just being opposed to deleting citizenship, but being in favor of maintaining and enforcing a border? No contradiction there. I don’t see what’s calloused about it,…

> a historical edge case What are you talking about? Revocation of citizenship, denaturalization, exile, banishment, etc are some of the oldest functions of law there are. For as long as states and the concept of citizenship have existed, revocation of citizenship has been a thing. Hell, entire countries were started by populations that were denaturalized. And countries regularly denaturalize their own citizens, both…

Okay so what percent of historical citizenships have been revoked? What percent would it be for you to not consider it an edge case? My estimate is an upper bound of 1% of citizenships historically were deleted. I would call that an edge case. Not because it doesn’t matter, but because being for enforcement of borders and residency laws does not make you automatically for deleting citizenships, and conflating the two is incorrect. If it is 5% or 10% then I would be wrong to use the language “edge case” but I believe my point stands regardless.

I had not read about the “naked zip tied children” case. If that happened as described, the officers involved should be disciplined. I do wish this could be done in a more orderly fashion as that would reduce the chances of illegal conduct from the officers, though with the American election cycle I can understand why the regime may feel like it needs to act quickly.

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