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WhatsApp, Telegram and everyone else should pull out of EU in protest of Chat Control. Then EU will be forced to make its own chat app, UX will be terrible, and citizens will finally feel enough pain to contact their representatives ;)
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It looks like this law (which is unrelated to the Online Safety Act) is concerned with children being subjected to ad-tech tracking and similar indiscriminate data harvesting, so a site like this which doesn't feel the need to share your habits with 2,541 partners is probably out of scope. https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/the-children-s-code-what-i...
I like how it's always "oh just safeguard people's data", oh "just" don't do anything bad with people's data. Then you look up what the actual regulation says and it's hundreds of pages of pure legaleese (over 100 pages for GDPR, over 300 for Online Safety Act), that you'd need to hire a team of lawyers to parse and interpret to make sure you're not breaking any of the regulations therein.
Imgur only has yearly revenues of around $30m. The money they make in the UK specifically likely doesn't justify wasting resources on compliance.
It is an image storage service masquerading as a business. It will be of no loss if it were to fail entirely.
That's decades of the public internet that would be permanently erased; billions of dead links pointing nowhere. HN alone would lose ~32,000 images from its archives,
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
Is it not hubris to call it "no loss" if, say, 3 hours ago, "Design of a LISP-based microprocessor / Page 22 has a map of the processor layout:" was forever lost to humanity, as collateral damage to some techbros' dispute?
Decentralization can't arrive soon enough.
Im sorry, if you run a site some where not in the UK. It doesn't give the country jurisdiction over the entire internet. If a country wants to enforce some kind of rules, they will have to apply them to the countries residents, because its the resident that go out on the net and conduct the behavior, not the other way around. This has been common sense for a long time now. Everybody is going crazy/mad. Must be some s…
Just a few months ago games built by US-based developers, sold on US-based platform with payments processors also US-based were censored by actions of Australian christian activist group. Simply by sending some threating letters to payment processor management. It was done by few hundred fanatics who want to censor what content everyone is allowed to access. Since this is possible, there not enough resistance and UK…
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It is an image storage service masquerading as a business. It will be of no loss if it were to fail entirely.
> "It will be of no loss if it were to fail entirely." That's decades of the public internet that would be permanently erased; billions of dead links pointing nowhere. HN alone would lose ~32,000 images from its archives, https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Is it not hubris to call it "no loss" if, say, 3 hours ago, "Design of a LISP-based microprocessor / Page 22 has a map of the processo…
https://web.archive.org/web/20230427181813/https://i.imgur.c... (link is already dead at Imgur)
Wayback will have them, as is tradition. A crawl (non IA) has been kicked off to reconcile to ensure maximum coverage of Imgur links on HN.
https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs...
> The ICO also confirmed that companies could not avoid accountability by withdrawing their services in the UK. This is quite a slippery slope. If I host a website in one country, I do not necessarily care where people access my website from. It is not like I actively provide a service to them - they just use internet (decentralised network) to access it. What if I publish a newspaper here, someone takes it where the…
> am I accountable? If you travel to their jurisdiction, yes.
WhatsApp, Telegram and everyone else should pull out of EU in protest of Chat Control. Then EU will be forced to make its own chat app, UX will be terrible, and citizens will finally feel enough pain to contact their representatives ;)
When did the US government make a chat app? Signal?
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I did say it was extreme on purpose to make the point clear, or so I thought. Looks like it isn't clear to you... Whatever you think of my example, it is exactly the same legal reasoning at play here. If you broke the law then withdrawing does not change that and accountability. > It's not comparable because the "crime" has been committed in the hosting country Obviously not, that's the whole point: They may (investi…
I genuinely think your example is bad and the legal reasoning is bad. A better comparison would be AM Radio broadcasting something obscene into the UK from let's say belgium.
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It appears that you are mixing things here. It's not about "hosting a website", it's about providing services. If you provide services, like selling a newspaper, in the UK, you need to respect their laws, or you will suffer the legal implications of not doing so. And regarding the accountability, it refers to the fact that imgur USED TO provide services in the UK: > We have been clear that exiting the UK does not all…
> that imgur USED TO provide services in the UK Meaning that the servers were located in the UK, or that the users were, or both?
Whose laws need to be followed?
